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Old 01-24-2019, 05:43 PM   #339701
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Old 01-24-2019, 05:43 PM   #339702
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Old 01-24-2019, 05:47 PM   #339703
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I dont care what other people think and that is not the driver here, dont know how I could possibly be accused of that in this thread.
I'm just making it up as I go along, my dude
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Old 01-24-2019, 05:50 PM   #339704
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So unspoken in fact, that only Ava knows about it
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Old 01-24-2019, 05:58 PM   #339705
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No, they are a great company. There's just a unspoken understanding that free time is limited in the beginning of the year.



I learned a long time ago though to give zero f**ks about

company loyalty*. This is about doing the right thing by my team.



*Not taking 2 weeks in march isnt as much about loyalty as it is ethics. My contribution to this company is ending march 1st. I dont want to be paid after. I accepted the job with the understanding it wasnt accrued and there was no payout. Could I take some time before? Sure. It doesnt bring in incremental revenue though, so I'm pretty indifferent.



My bonus on the other hand has already been earned, just not paid.



I get accused alot of making up ethics as I go but Im fairly methodical in thinking about "the right thing" and care a great deal about it.



I dont care what other people think and that is not the driver here, dont know how I could possibly be accused of that in this thread.

You earn/accrue vacation. Can’t understand why they wouldn’t pay it out. Seems immoral if not illegal.

If you’re soon to be former employer would pull a fast one to cut you out of 10K then maybe it’s just me, but screw it all.
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:12 PM   #339706
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It's not a fast one, it's well understood at many companies that a bonus is only payable if you are employed on the date of the payout.
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:15 PM   #339707
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You earn/accrue vacation. Can’t understand why they wouldn’t pay it out. Seems immoral if not illegal.

If you’re soon to be former employer would pull a fast one to cut you out of 10K then maybe it’s just me, but screw it all.


+1

If you get 3 weeks at the start of the year and you were there at the start of the year, you earned it
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:17 PM   #339708
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Wasn't Cate Hall bragging that she left a 500k/year lawyer job to play poker because it was more profitable? And she was playing mid stakes?!?
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:19 PM   #339709
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No way that's true straight $ for $.
Maybe hourly equivalent, but still doubtful.
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:21 PM   #339710
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Its not accrued. Its the first one lapi said.

They do this specifically to avoid payout is my understanding. Its not exactly scummy as their vacation policy as a whole is very good. Its also probably set up this way to remove complexity as well.

Im certain vacation wont pay out and Im certain its legal. This is a fortune 100 with >100k employees. Perhaps lapi could explain more.
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:30 PM   #339711
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If you are putting in 50% effort between now and when you touch that bonus check, AND you are leaving vacay time on the table, you're waaaaaay ahead of the field on the ethical scale.

Not giving notice isn't your fault so this isn't you failing the team. The company policies are what will be leaving them hanging. And they'll get over it.
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:54 PM   #339712
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Aren't you completely moving away from the area you live in?

If so, **** em, you'll likely never see any of them again.

Hell, I still live in the same town as my old job and I barely see any of my old coworkers.
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Old 01-24-2019, 07:08 PM   #339713
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If you are putting in 50% effort between now and when you touch that bonus check, AND you are leaving vacay time on the table, you're waaaaaay ahead of the field on the ethical scale.

Not giving notice isn't your fault so this isn't you failing the team. The company policies are what will be leaving them hanging. And they'll get over it.
Thank you, this helped.
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Old 01-24-2019, 07:48 PM   #339714
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IME, bonus are bonus and are not part of earned salary. And my company lets you know the 2018 bonus in mid feb, and if you are not employeed or have given notice, before its paid, they dont pay it (end of march)

Additionally as part of accepting bonus you agree to give perscribed notice period or they can (at least try) to claw back bonus.

Vacation is earned, if you are salaried and ive never heard of it not being subject to payouts, some companies claim use it or lose it, but that is less likely to holdup....

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Old 01-24-2019, 08:49 PM   #339715
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Anybody here ever been on a hot air balloon ride?

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Old 01-24-2019, 09:03 PM   #339716
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Vacation is earned, if you are salaried and ive never heard of it not being subject to payouts, some companies claim use it or lose it, but that is less likely to holdup....
Well this company (a fortune 100, >100k employees) does not. Mrs ava's coincidentally does not either (I didnt know this until today).

Both make your vacation immediately available, i.e. on my start date I had 15 days. It does not accrue, nor does it roll over. Google shows that this method is not uncommon, and it does not pay out.

The more ambiguous part of this was the effective date of employment for a bonus payout...and the possible repercussions of not giving notice.
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:03 PM   #339717
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Wasn't Cate Hall bragging that she left a 500k/year lawyer job to play poker because it was more profitable? And she was playing mid stakes?!?
never really understood how or why she was a thing. guess i'm late to the party but just read about the 60k she dusted off of chad power who always seems involved in shady ****. this quote was funny though:

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Old 01-24-2019, 09:11 PM   #339718
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:12 PM   #339719
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Played with hall at a WPT event, obvious opiate user. Anybody who gave her money to punt had it coming.

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Old 01-24-2019, 09:15 PM   #339720
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:15 PM   #339721
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Well this company (a fortune 100, >100k employees) does not. Mrs ava's coincidentally does not either (I didnt know this until today).



Both make your vacation immediately available, i.e. on my start date I had 15 days. It does not accrue, nor does it roll over. Google shows that this method is not uncommon, and it does not pay out.



The more ambiguous part of this was the effective date of employment for a bonus payout...and the possible repercussions of not giving notice.
My company doesn't do bonuses at all, reason stated is it can create the wrong culture and influence the projects people choose to work on.

That being said, they offered RSU options as a bonus last year that vests over 4 years, but unfortunately is counted as taxable income each vesting year.
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:17 PM   #339722
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Fun at all? Might do one in Napa but it's only at like dawn and i'm going in April so could be ****ing cold.

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Old 01-24-2019, 09:45 PM   #339723
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Fun at all? Might do one in Napa but it's only at like dawn and i'm going in April so could be ****ing cold.

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Ima spoonfeed u this one. Make sure you go with a small outfit. I mean that you, the missus and the pilot are the only ones in the basket. There are companies out there that will stuff 16+ people into very large baskets. Make an event out of it. If its cold wear long underwear, scarves, warm sox, mittens, hat, etc. If its cold bring a thermos of hot apple cider, or a warm fun sippin beverage - and sip that sht while watching the sun come up over napa with your arm around her and take the majesty of it all in. SOP for baloon rides is champagne and a snack after landing. Find out exactly what the deal is. See if you can upgrade and have an amazing breakfast picknick (or if you can prep one - surprise your woman with her fave breakfast stuff). If done up right taking your woman balooning can be an epic romantic adventure. Half assin it and going with 20 other people...meh
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:48 PM   #339724
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better sex while in hot air balloon or while hang gliding?
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:49 PM   #339725
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never really understood how or why she was a thing. guess i'm late to the party but just read about the 60k she dusted off of chad power who always seems involved in shady ****. this quote was funny though:
so what you're saying is i just gotta get a 60k rider and i'm golden? hell, i can even beat 1/3



i think she was a thing because she was a she and the whole thing with the man ape who was worse than she was. other than that, i got nothing. forget that dudes name but he was turrrrible.
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