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unsooted ones are better because you don't have to pay off bigger flush obv.

Speaking of which, when your blocking bet gets min-raised, do they [typical non-pro regs] always have the 2nd or 3rd nuts?

03-01-2011 , 11:45 PM

#2527

iLikeCaliDonks

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Aye just got a new number if anybody wants it pm me ya dig.

03-02-2011 , 02:13 AM

#2528

Bluegrassplayer

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where do you normally play cali? I'll be in san diego in a week and a half and will probably hit up some south cali card rooms

03-02-2011 , 02:49 AM

#2529

iLikeCaliDonks

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La and inland empire casinos.

I'm about 2 hours from san diego.

03-02-2011 , 04:58 AM

#2530

AEPpoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer

where do you normally play cali? I'll be in san diego in a week and a half and will probably hit up some south cali card rooms

i am gonna be doing the sandiego thing as well for the wsopc. it tilts me that there is no where to stay near the beach that is also near harrahs.

this strikes me as poor planning.

03-02-2011 , 05:04 AM

#2531

iLikeCaliDonks

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AEPpoker

i am gonna be doing the sandiego thing as well for the wsopc. it tilts me that there is no where to stay near the beach that is also near harrahs.

this strikes me as poor planning.

I'm strictly cash games. I'm grinding that's all I need to do.

The circuit events are cool. If I was rich like most of you guys I would go.

03-02-2011 , 10:49 AM

#2532

Bluegrassplayer

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when is wsopc?

03-02-2011 , 11:01 AM

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papagavin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer

where do you normally play cali? I'll be in san diego in a week and a half and will probably hit up some south cali card rooms

this made me LOL.

btw have you guys heard of the monty hall problem?

i decided to do philosophy as an elective and it was a pretty cool piece of the lecture

basically, theres 3 boxes labelled A B and C, and one has $20 in it

you are told to pick a box, and after you do so, one of the other empty boxes is opened. of the 2 remaining, you know for fact one has $20 and one is empty. you are given the option of staying with your original box or changing to the other one, which should you do?

03-02-2011 , 11:05 AM

#2534

Bluegrassplayer

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what is funny about that?

Obviously take the box you didn't choose...

03-02-2011 , 11:09 AM

#2535

papagavin

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your good, bgp :\

took me a few minutes

03-02-2011 , 11:12 AM

#2536

KurtSF

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I'm good at probability, and have spent A LOT of time thinking about it (obviously), and things like the monty hall problem still eff with my head.

03-02-2011 , 11:16 AM

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MK7749

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this was in tht movie 21.

it has to do with probability if i remember correctly. like we start with 33% of chance of being right, after 1 box is removed and we chose another box our chance of hitting goes up again. Not sure how this affects it though cause to me it all depends on table image.

I mean if the guy picking the boxes had good reads on the OP then using metagame he could always make it to have enough equity in picking the box most unlikely to be chosen.

but this all goes out the window when they play small ball.

03-02-2011 , 11:21 AM

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Bluegrassplayer

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Actually in your example it doesn't really matter.

The only time it matters is when we know who is opening the boxes would never open the box that has the money.

03-02-2011 , 11:30 AM

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papagavin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer

Actually in your example it doesn't really matter.

The only time it matters is when we know who is opening the boxes would never open the box that has the money.

actually it does matter

guess you were just lucky :P

Think about it!

03-02-2011 , 11:36 AM

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papagavin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MK7749

its impossible for the box opener to have bias. if you pick the correct box, he will open either box and show u an empty one. if you pick incorrectly, he will open the other empty box. either way, you see an empty box, and know only that of the remaining two one is empty and one has the $$$.

i cant think of any way the box opener could cheat you to gain an edge?

answer:

Spoiler:

03-02-2011 , 11:43 AM

#2541

Bluegrassplayer

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Quote:

you are told to pick a box, and after you do so, one of the other empty boxes is opened. of the 2 remaining, you know for fact one has $20 and one is empty. you are given the option of staying with your original box or changing to the other one, which should you do?

You don't describe the game really. All you are saying is that I choose a box and then someone chooses another box and opens it, you don't specify if he's playing the game as well.

If it's possible that you can choose the winning box also, then changing has no affect.

The only time that it is advantageous to switch boxes is when we know that the other person playing could never pick the winning box, so now we double our chances by choosing the other box.

Given that we don't know whether or not that's true, it's still good to choose the other box.

03-02-2011 , 12:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeymaps

Yeah would like others recommendations for slowing down decisions when they play live, I feel I make them too quickly at times, sometimes they seem trivial esp with most players lol bet sizing but there is usually one or two hands a session that I could have not called or made a better value bet or raise if I thought about the hand a bit more.

I think away from the table I break down hands fairly well but at the table sometimes I know I don't.

+1 to this

I sometimes find it hard running all the numbers (stacks sizes, pot size, perhaps hand combos) in real-time to come up with the best solution. I find I often replay a hand in my head after it happens for the next half hour to see if I came to the proper conclusion at the time, something I should just take the time to do as it happens.

03-02-2011 , 01:30 PM

#2543

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Good morning my dudes

03-02-2011 , 04:21 PM

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If you like the Monty Hall problem, how about this one? My brother posed it to me and it drove me nuts. Sorry if you've already seen it.

Three men rent a hotel room. Each pays $10 for a total of $30 spent on the room. The next day the hotel owner tells the three men that they over paid for the room as it only costs $25. The three men tell the owner to give them each a dollar back and he can keep two dollars as a tip.

If you do the math, each man paid $9 a piece for the room for a total of $27. The owner kept $2 which brings the total to $29.

The question is where did the other dollar go?

03-02-2011 , 05:18 PM

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monkeymaps

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dionysus1

25/3= 8.33 right so there is like an extra 99 cents floating around?

03-02-2011 , 05:43 PM

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Princess Azula

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dionysus1

LOL

Each paid $9 for a hotel room, and a tip, for a combined $27.

When you say:

"each man paid $9 a piece for the room for a total of $27. The owner kept $2 which brings the total to $29"...

That's not actuate because the $27 is the total, and that $27 included the tip. The owner takes $2 from the $27 total (puts it in his pocket as a tip). This brings the amount for the room down to $25, as it should be.

03-02-2011 , 05:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeymaps

25/3= 8.33 right so there is like an extra 99 cents floating around?

it's just in the symantics.
your counting the tip more than once??

when they get $5 refunded, they've spent $8.33 each,
when they tip $2, it's an additional 66 cents each,
which adds up to $9 each,
which is $27 total after the tip, not before.
when they asked for a dollar back each, they just confused themselves?