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04-22-2013 , 07:38 PM
Hero (covers): tight image. Haven't played too many hands. Had a couple raise, Cbet fold flops.

Villain 1: (70) Terrible player. Buys in for low. Bets with any piece sometimes even underpairs as well as draws. Known spot.

Villain 2: (130-140ish)
Old man coffee type. Doesn't play many hands. Never seen him raise. Will limp call a raise on occasion.

6 limps to Hero on BTN. Hero bets 12 with AhK. 4 callers.

Flop Kh8h2 ($60)

Villain 1 leads for $12. V2 raises to $25. Hero calls. V1 calls.

Turn Jo ($135)

V1 leads $7. V2 raises to 15. Hero calls. V1 calls.

River Qo ($180)
Both players check to hero.
V1 looks like he has nothing. Really disappointed by river it appears. Tends to be truthful in tells.
Merit to shoving for
$75 (effective to v2)?

I think V1 has missed draws here alot. I'm trying to get V2 to fold AK.
Thoughts?
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04-22-2013 , 08:09 PM
This depends on your V2, they vary a lot on what they bet here and how often they fold to a shove. Some are fold prone to aggression and can be blown off fairly good hands by big raises and shove, others are quite stationary when they hit their big hands and will stack off to obvious flush/straights.

Mostly I would consider it a bad idea here. The double min raise is terrible play but it means V2 really likes his hand. I doubt he folds river, he might think he is making a crying call, but most would call.
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04-22-2013 , 08:27 PM
Jam turn before the heart gets there or the other draws get there.
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04-22-2013 , 08:47 PM
Pf raise should be around 18-20 with that many limpers.

It doesn't matter about V1 because he can have anything and you have him beat almost all the time, not to mention he only has 70.

V2 is scary by the min-raise, but is he the type of player who knows when to min-raise? My guess is no from your description.

You also said you have 4 limpers, but only two descriptions of villians. Some description of the other two can help us eliminate cards such as the K and J OTT if those two call with broadway cards.

As played, I can understand the flat on turn, but I'm willing to c/c this all the way down if V2 wants to. That J on turn could of easily hit V2, or the Q on the river..

The 15 dollar raise OTT by V2 leads me to believe that he has no idea what he's doing. I'm shoving on river though since V2 checks. TPTK is probably the best hand here since V2 checked on the river.
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04-22-2013 , 08:59 PM
raise more preflop, shove flop
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04-22-2013 , 09:00 PM
raise to 17-25 pre depending on table

a normal 1-2 game i play at i would raise to 20 with that # of limpers
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04-22-2013 , 09:01 PM
This hand makes my head hurt. Raise to minimum 20 pre. Either fold flop or jam. Something like $75 in the middle after the flop raise. Flatting gives everyone odds to smash turn. This board is about the best you can ask for. If he has a set then reload and deal. More often than not he has Kx and pair + FD type hands. Check back river as played and don't get owned by every two pair that got there and won't fold.
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04-22-2013 , 09:16 PM
Not being all in before the river is a huge leak. Raise more pre, and shove the flop. Ez game.
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04-22-2013 , 09:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rumor
Not being all in before the river is a huge leak. Raise more pre, and shove the flop. Ez game.
+1
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04-22-2013 , 10:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rumor
Not being all in before the river is a huge leak. Raise more pre, and shove the flop. Ez game.
Appreciate that feedback never thought of it that way. Will try to plug!
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04-23-2013 , 12:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rumor
Not being all in before the river is a huge leak. Raise more pre, and shove the flop. Ez game.
Seriously. OP, you should have shoved flop with these stack sizes.
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04-23-2013 , 06:47 AM
Easy flop shove. If not, easy turn shove.
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