Hero ($630) 30's reg, haven't played any big pots yet, won a few small ones, Table has been pretty straightforward so far

V ($1200): mid 50's Asian guy, just sat down about an orbit ago, don't have much history with him really, just know he's a regular ,

Hero dealt A4 Hero in sb, V in MP

Villian opens pre for $18, 5 callers

Flop ($90): AJ3

Hero checks , V fires $60 , everyone mucks to hero, I call $60,


Turn ($210): 7

Hero checks, V bets $200, I figure he has AQ/AK at minimum here , but should be more than capable of letting go of these hands to a shove , I pause and jam for about $550 trying to rep set / 2 pair

Is this play total spew ? I rarely do make this play, but feel it's a play I should have in my arsenal, especially against players capable of folding top pair type hands , and against players that oovervalue toppair hands but are thinking players ,, perhaps should have a more scarier board to execute this move though , I figure he calls me with all his AJ+ hands , and mucks worse, also I feel having this play in my arsenal when called brings my stronger hands much more value in similar spots ,

The time to make a bluff was on the flop. Now there's too much money in the pot for him to fold a made hand.

Also if he does have AK/AQ, he blocks AJ/A3. It's also highly unlikely you have AA, or JJ. So you are repping really thin here.

I think so. You really need a read to be making plays like this, not just shooting from the hip against a guy who sat down 10 hands ago. Your default read on a low stakes reg should say that he goes broke with a big Ace here.

If you are going to make a move at this pot, like I said, the time was on the flop. C/R flop to $200. Jam Turn. That's a high-variance play, but should be +EV enough to justify it. That's also your best bet for getting him to fold a good Ace.

However, I really don't like the play with this particular hand. You have some showdown value and a reasonable chance to improve. Your value range here is thin, really just AJ and 33, so you don't need many bluffs. KQcc, QTcc, and 45cc are your best bluff candidates I think. I'd be trying to get to showdown with everything else.

My level 1 thought is people generally don't pot/fold the turn so I don't love it. My second thought is having a bluff range here is awesome so I love it. It's hard for him to call this off with AK and AQ and expect to be good.

My verdict is not total spew, I really love plays like this. You're so nutted here most of the time it is ridiculous so mixing in some high equity bluffs is great. More ideal would be if the J was a lower card like a 9 or 8 so he has fewer 2p and you can more credibly represent those set combos. I suspect V doesn't have to fold here all that often for this to be profitable.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

1,144 trials (Exhaustive)

board: AJ37

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
Ac4c	32.08%	367	0
AA, AK, AQ, JJ, 33, KcQc, QcTc, KcTc	67.92%	777	0

This is a valid argument against the bluff and especially bolded. You do have almost straight up equity to call with Ac4c.

This can be a good play and it should be in your range of options. Without knowing more about villain I can't tell if this is good or spew in this case. If villain is a tight/station who always has a good AX or better then it's pure spew. If villain is a gambling fish who is likely to be betting a worse flush draw and might call the shove on the turn then it's great.

Against an unknown opponent I find it's better to wait for some more information before trying a big bluff. I will hold myself to c-bets and the rare flop raise with a good draw until I have a better idea if villain has a fold button and what they can be betting.

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Whether or not this is a good play is entirely dependent on villain (and his perception of you).

Since you don't have any information on him, I'd say it was a bit spewwy. Considering how much money is already in the pot when you shove, it's going to be difficult for strong aces to make the lay down, especially considering your check call on the flop and check on the turn just kind of looks like you're bluffing a draw.

So villain sits down an orbit ago and has $1200 (which makes me think 2/5) but he raises pre to 18 (which makes me think 1/3). Either its an uncapped 1/3 game or he quadrupled up in the past orbit... That or it's some weird 2/5 game where bets don't have to be in $5 increments.

Anyways, based on the somewhat incomplete hand history, it looks like villain opened to 18 and 3 people called, now it's on you in the SB... 3-bet here all day, 100 on top seems good. As played, I think it's spew to jam turn here. He's basically announcing that he's never folding since he bet flop into 4 players, and continued by betting pot on the turn. Just call and realize your equity.

Against 1 or 2 villains....I love it.

Against 4...I hate it.

Feels like one of those situations where you might get the cascade of callers. One guy puts in $100, then the other 3 have to do so as well because "pot odds". You'd be giving the next player 2 to 1. Any calls just makes the odds better for the next guy.

And even if you do get it 2 or 3 way, you're out of position and any c-bet commits you to the pot.

Re-raising suited wheel aces from the blinds is definitely something you should be doing. But you should be doing it when the field is small, and you're deep enough to barrel multiple streets. This isn't one of those situations.

We call pre-flop here because we want to make 2 pair, or over-flush someone and win stacks.