Wouldn't be on Q9 of course.

If I were playing AQ or KQ, I would raise pre and so the outcome might be different. If all those ******* call I'm hating life. I would feel obligated to cbet, but I would bet the minimum amount that wouldn't get me laughed at and get the heck out of Dodge at the first opportunity.

44, I limp/call pre and bomb the flop, something like $48.

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I think I see where you're going with this; by taking the free card and eventually betting the flush, I'm playing my hand face up and, more importantly, giving up equity from the nits. However, I think there's more money to be had from the fish at the table, and maybe from the LAG if he's ******ed. Which a lot of them are.

Trust me, I'm the biggest aggrodonk in the world, if I can think of an excuse to play draws aggressively I will. I can only see one argument for (position) and about a bajillion arguments against. Just sayin.

I think the biggest factor in wanting to get in a bunch of our chips in now is the fact that there is 145 in the middle, and our stack is 194. If we were playing with 300+, I could definitely see a reason (and/or) for another line entirely.

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Is $200 the maximum BI? I'd probably sit with a full BI if I felt the game was good (and we just saw a 9way straddled limped flop, so yeah, game kinda looks good).

I'm cool with preflop. Game looks loose as hell, so we're going to have a very difficult time narrowing the field with a raise here, which will most likely result in a very bloated pot with us OOP where we can get in some serious trouble (especially against hands that dominate us). AJs plays fine multiway, let's limp in there and hope it limps around and then ~nutmine.

We don't have any FE in a 9way pot by leading out (i.e. we're never betting to steal this pot). I would just check/evaluate. If some idiot bets small and gets a couple of weak looking calls, I would probably check/shove (where we probably have some FE to go with our nice hand equity hand). If like an OMC bets large into the field, I doubt we have any FE so I'd probably just call and try to hit my hand.

So with no OMC raising this super small bet on a very drawy board, I'm pretty sure no one has anything of real merit (we're up against a TP or so). So super easy shove at this point for me. Against hands like TP we're actually doing fine (flipping) with hugenormous dead money. And even though we're still multiway, a $194 bet should have some FE too, plus we might even get called by hands we actually crush (i.e. worse flush draws), plus we might fold out reverse dominating hands (A4/A9).

The bigger the pot is relative to stacks, the more aggro we can be with our decent equity draws. The smaller the pot relative to stacks, the more passive we can be, try to hit, and then get in huge stacks later.

ETA: Sorta surprised more people aren't insta-jamming here. I think a good point was made about at least one other person having some of our outs, so I guess our hand equity isn't quite as good as we think, but even if we got it in versus a stubborn TP, with the dead money we should still easily be profitable. Taking down this much money right now with obviously not the best hand is quite a coup. And no one is ever slowplaying this flop with a monster this many ways with this much money already in the pot; no one is hiding in the weeds with a set here, never, ever, imo.

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I'm sticking with shoving as best play. You are getting called by dominated draws a ton and folding weak made hands a high percentage.