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Nut Flush draw versus likely tilting player's C/raise Nut Flush draw versus likely tilting player's C/raise

07-18-2014 , 02:12 PM
1-2 Parx 8 handed. I apology in advance for the long history listed. But I do feel its all relevant .

Villain

I've been playing with villain now for about 3hours or so. He's a 40 something year old bald white guy in a hoodie. When I sat down, he had a stack of +800 but over the course of those hours has slowly lost almost all of it. He now hovers around 200.
As for reads, villain is very loose and splashy preflop. He often limps in EP and MP but will also raise a fairly wide range from these spots as well. For the first hour or so, he had a pretty good handle on the table often making strong bets/ raises that forced everyone else out. But He has one big leak in his game: he loves loves loves to float pots IP and bet big on the turn on the river when scare cards come down (or non scare cards). He will likely barrel ATC in position if checked to.

Half the table has wised up to this and now just check/call him down with TP okay kicker and the other half of the table keeps making terrible folds to his big river bets. He's lost most of his 800+ stack to the first group of people.

OOP he tends to play a bit tighter and seems to not get out of line as much.
He is becoming more irate as he bleeds chips. a few rounds ago he started to grill the dealer about the way a player's cards hit the muck.

Hero's Image and History

Hero has been playing a pretty LAGgy game in LP and LMP- often ISO raising EP and MP limps. No one 3bets, like ever. So his raising range IP is pretty wide.

HU, hero is cbetting close to 100% of the time and often takes it down. Hero gets a sense that his ISO raising and cbetting is frustrating villain who periodically shoots him a stare.

One hand that we played before I moved seats and when villain still had position on hero: After a few hands where hero has raised, villain called and than folded to hero's cbet. This hand happens.

8 handed. Hero opens to 10 UTG with XX. Villain in UTG +1 calls. Everyone else folds.
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Hero bets 16. Villain insta raises to 50. Hero shoves for 200sh. Villain tank folds.

One round before the hand in question happened. Villain c/raised a A89ss board when hero ISO raised and cbet. Hero folded.

phew. Okay, done with long bio. onto the actual hand.

8 handed. EP player limps, villain limps in MP. Hero in CO +1 makes it 10 with A5

BB calls, both limpers call. 4 handed. 40 in pot.

This raise is a bit loose I know. But no one at this table 3bets anything but KK+ and almost everyone plays fit or fold post flop. I also think I have decent steal equity on the flop and know how to get away from my hand if I flop a weak Ace when faced with aggression. In hindsight I'd rather limp or raise a bit more, to like 15, increasing the odds I will be HU, not 4 handed on the flop. Limping is probably best

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Checks to Hero who bets 25. Folds to villain who c/raises 75. He has about 140 left. Hero shoves AI.

While villain has been playing somewhat tightly OOP, I have a feeling, based on the obvious points that he has been losing and seems to be steaming, that he might be taking a stand against hero's frequent cbets.

As for why I shoved instead of just calling. If I think villain is opening up his c/raising range here, I think he often c/raises with weaker club draws and 45/57/ even 6X type hands. And I didn't want to have to call the flop and fold to his AI when the turn bricked off. Shoving guarantees I get to see all 5 cards. and might get him to fold 6X or even or something like 77 or 88, which is great for us.

Considering history with villain, thoughts on flop shove?
what do you do if villain is a complete stranger here?

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07-18-2014 , 02:36 PM
Raise 12-15 pf. You have pretty much no FE with the reraise shove btw, but as played it's fine to gii for 70bbs with the nut draw because often enough your A will be live too.
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07-18-2014 , 03:20 PM
If $10 is your/tables standard raise with two limpers, that's fine. Just make sure you aren't giving info away with raise amounts. I'm shoving this every time against this guy with this stack.
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07-18-2014 , 03:32 PM
re-iterating what others have said. I'd go 14-16 preflop, or limp. I probably prefer limping over limpers with suited aces just for the flush over flush capabilities that it has against the ranges of others limpers.

As played, I'm fine with the shove. I don't expect him to fold often, but your pot equity, combined with the times villain has some wacky bluff, or a worse draw make this a profitable spot.
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07-18-2014 , 03:33 PM
Pre is probably fine but I'm not 100% on your actual position at the table. CO+1 isn't a standard term for a position because it means the button.

Post is fine. I'm happily getting it in here vs. described villain.
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