V1: ok reg. Tight opener, but face up post. (500)

V2: huge fish. Calls with any piece or draw including big bets on turn. Falling asleep and playing looser than normal pre. Down at least 6 buyins. (450)

V3: Best player at table. Solid winner at bigger game. Haven't seen too many bluffs, but I assume he is can. Value bets thinly. (900)

Hero: image is probably a bit lag pre due to isoing v2 repeatedly. V1 views me as solid, but V3 probably sees me as a bit of a station due to limited history. (700)

V1 opens UTG+1 to 25.
V2 call from MP.
Hero calls on BU with As6d.
V3 calls from SB.

Flop (100)
Kh6s7s. Checks around.

Turn (100)
Kh6s7s 3s
Checks to hero. Hero bets 55. V3 calls. V1 and 2 fold.

River (210)
Kh6s7s 3s 9s.

V3 leads for 85.
Hero??

Opinions on all streets are welcome, but I want to know if raising river is too thin. I am not sure if V will call with K high flush with 4 spades out and there are 3 straight flush combos.

Oh dear lord fold pre is this for real.

As played bet flop I guess.

As played river is an easy raise really. If he has the SF, he played it straight up awfully, and you say he's a good player. Only a couple combos of that anyway.

I fold this 99% pre, but I wanted to play as many hands IP with fish as possible. Plus my hand does not suffer from RIO because V1 will always check fold to A high board if he does not have TP+.

I bet turn expecting for V1 and v3 to fold. V2 could call with a lot worse including some terrible flush draws. He would then stack off on river if he hit flush.

It's really just a fold pre. This hand just doesn't make money, and stacks aren't deep.

Turn bet is definitely fine.

Fold pre. AP raise to 250 or so.

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fold pre. raise river.

If v3 is a good player he probably isn't playing 58ss from the SB. Actually T8 and 45ss seem pretty unlikely for that reason, too. His line also doesn't make sense with those hands...no way he check/calls a made straight flush or a made flush + sfd on the turn. What if you have a straight or a set and a 4th spade comes and kills his action? If he has those hands he played it real bad.

Then again, him having a king high flush doesn't make much sense either. He should be raising the turn with TP + second nfd, to say nothing of made king-high flushes.

Are you sure this guy's good? The lines don't make sense. Maybe this guy is just clarkmeistering you with air.

I'm probably just getting 140bbs in here and calling it a cooler if he has a straight flush. He bet he calls with K/Q flushes more often than you think. If there were 1000bbs going into the pot it would be another matter...

Agree that pre is a fold. Like I said, I would fold 99% of time. Just got caught up trying to stack the fish.

Sizing of river raise?
If I raise, what worse will call?
Is it a raise/fold?

Fold pre 100%. Raise river 100%. Make it $235 or so

Wtf are we doing here pre? I get you have a fish in the water but you have a great white in there as well. I'm sure we can pick a better spot than this with better cards to ISO the guppy...no? At least have it sooted for Christ sake!
Ugh

As played, you're not going to get value from this hand, period. When you raise the river, and you need to do it here, he's most likely going to fold if he is a player. I hate the "well, even if I raised, he probably would've fold"... You'd be surprised how often people call when they shouldn't of. Raise ~225-250
If he has a straight flush... ... Just a reminder not to play a dead mans hand.

I can't emphasize how bad that pre flop is. Sorry.

Worse might not call, but maybe a K high flush will make a crying call. If he is as good of a player as you say, I don't see him calling a raise... But you gotta do it.

If he goes over the top of your raise then that's another story... But I wouldn't worry too much about that. I don't see a "solid winning player in higher stakes" calling pre flop with 85 T8... Maybe 45... But even then a winning player should know that calling in the blinds pre is unprofitable with those hands with shallow stacks.

The 85 lead kinda seems like a blocker bet.
But, it also looks like he is trying to rep that A considering you bet on the turn when the third spade hit.. Maybe he thinks you bet the turn because you were slow playing the flop but don't wanna see too many draws hit river.
Bet 250 and muck after he pretends to deliberate and tell himself to fold when it was his plan all along if you were to raise his 85

easy...however +1 lol

Fold pre (Easily dominated, RIO, yada yada)
Bet flop (Good semi-bluff spot. Maybe MPTK is good?)
Check/call turn (Worse won't call, better won't fold. But we gots the nfd...)
Raise River (You've got the NFD. This is a PHAT value spot. Lol King-high flush won't call off 70%psb here.)

Hero raises to 200.
V instaships.

Fold or call?

I think we all know he shows up with a SF given the thread. However, this is probably a fold. I can't imagine anyone pulling off a suicide bluff here with air. Simarly, doing this with Ks for value is ridiculously dumb. It looks like he turned the SF, got over excited and played it awfully, and now the ship makes sense. Can't see anyway we're good even if his line is dumb either way.

Pretty easy raise. There's MUBSy, and then there's putting someone on the straight flush MUBSy.

Fold to the raise. He's never raising worse for value and it's pretty insane to think he'll bluff raise with a straight flush blocker.

Fold

Wow, I would hate to fold this, but then again I suck@poker, so that definitely means folding here is correct.

So there is a consensus of raise/fold.

Put yourself in villain shoes on river.
What is your bet/fold range?
What is your bet/3bet range?
What is your bet/call range?

Well if you want to get into a balance convo this would be a good spot for a bluff raise since his betting range would be As, Ks, Qs, and hands turned into bluffs. So we can balance our As here with bluff raises.