Check to induce works as well.

Either way, $65 to win a $245 pot? Snap call. You are good here way more than 1 in 3.8 times. If he turns up with TT or JJ, oh well.

i think he checks back TT or JJ to be honest. at least that was my thought when i decided to call. if he floated with AQ all the way i was going to pay him off.

Now I am having some trouble with following your logic.

If you think he checks back JJ/TT, then you can't put him on 22-66, 88, or 7x either when he bets. So what do you think he is betting with that you beat?

But I think your ranging is off. I can't imagine he is checking back a full house unless he is Nitty McNitterson's grandfather, Pappy OMC McNitterson, which doesn't appear to be the case. But if he is, you have to fold to the river bet. He always has AA here.

I don't want this thread to die! It's become clear to me that I am nowhere near a decent TAG, and therefore my posts aren't really worthy of their own threads. I have a few hands from poker tonight that I'll post. I'll post them one at a time, since they were in order at the same table.

HAND 1

Hero has a tight image to pretty much the whole table.

V1 seemed tight a few weeks ago, but I've since seen him call UTG with KJo when the Big Blind raised to 12, and I've seen him call with small connectors for a raise, so I'm changing my perception.

UTG limps, V1 (77 chips) limps. Hero is UTG+2 with AdAc, makes it 13. Everybody folds around to V1 who says "ahhhh, I've gotta call."

Flop K84, all hearts. Pot 31. Hero? (Also I know I probably should've made it more preflop but the table did know I was tight.)

bet, let's see how he reacts

On a 3337 board youll get guys floating Ax a lot

We check river to induce a bluff from AT or something.

Hero bets 20, V1 pretty quickly shoves for 44 more. Pot 115, 44 to call.

Villain stays still, but breathing pretty heavily, till hero looks over at him, villain jerks out of his position and takes a sip of his drink off to the side. Villain settles back into position, arms crossed.

I don't think tells are everything but I thought I should give all the information I had available.

Oh, shoot, sorry ChipKelly...I forgot to mention he checked first, obviously, being out of position.

1/3 game, Old man mid position opens to 10 one caller, I raise to 40 on the btn with JJ. Old man calls and goes all in for 120 on a A9x board, i fold. I thought i was beat as soon as he called. Do you give him a range of AA KK AK after the preflop call? When he lead out i took it as he wasnt even concerned i had AK. I have mixed feelings on the 40 raise, after i folded i was thinking 30 may of been more reasonable. Any opinions appreciated.

i think for 44 i call expecting to lose. he only has to have something like Kx, what, 1/4 times to make it a call.

He had 8T with one heart. We ran it twice, he hit flush the first time and two pair the second time.

The question is, should I have shoved the flop, in case he had one heart, if I knew I was going to call a checkraise anyway? He might have folded if I shoved, because he would know he couldn't get me to fold...and maybe I had a heart too.

Or, should I not have shoved, based on reeling him in when he has a king?

hand came up last night at a 1/2 game, don't know how to approach it.

I open raise otb with TTs to 15 and only sb calls. he's been playing loose passive pre and has been a pretty big station post, but has weak/tight tendencies (scared money) if the betting gets going.

974r. sb donks 15. this really looks like top pair or a pp seeing where they are at. sb has donked before and when the hand was shown down he donked with a weak tp hand.

I make it 50. sb tanks and tanks and calls. he has about 90 left after the call and the pot is 130

turn is a K. sb checks. this is where i got confused and tanked.

do i continue to bet for value? i am very sure the sb will fold to almost any bet with 9x and i almost cant find the value in betting here.

should i check and value bet otr? problem is that there a good amount of river cards that will have the same effect as the K, and completely slow down the action

i thought about it for a while and couldn't think of any good reason to bet other than to protect my equity, but realized that the majority of the time sb has about 12% equity if i check and he has 9x.

how do i proceed?

any bet should put villian all-in; 130 in pot & only 90 behind--you're giving odds to call with any decent pair.

Two options: If you check the King & another over card comes up, do you fold to a bet?

OR--If an over card comes and is checked to you, there is little chance of getting called and still winning.

I'd get it in now (assuming you feel you are ahead), or else you're giving up on the hand.

He likely has 9x

I dont think hed lead TP on flop then not lead if he had K9 on turn

I think you can bet small like 40 and he'll call then put him in if river bricks

If you out him all in on flop do you think he'd call his 9x?

You played it fine, you want him to spazz out with a worse hand. Plus, if he just calls, you get another chance to make a better decision than him in position.

The guy called off $12 OOP (Potentially) heads up with $77. I'd be happy to get it in on any flop.

Jesse

Yeah Jesse, the plan going into the flop was to get it in no matter what, given his stack size. The flop just happened to come the worst imaginable, other than 9TJ monotone.

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HAND 2

Same table. I didn't rebuy after the previous hand, and had blinded down a little.

V1 is BB, a loose guy who just loooves to chase draws. Have also seen him call a 2/3 pot bet, 1 caller already, with 2nd pair no draw on a J8x flop.

V2 is UTG and is incredibly loose preflop at times. Decent postflop though.

Hero is UTG+1 with 110 in chips, picks up TT. V2 limps, hero raises to 10, V1 and V2 call.

Pot is 31, flop is 4s6c7s. V1 checks, V2 checks, Hero?

24/call. value/protection bet. lots of spade, 55, 65, 78, a7, a5 hands that can get the money in now.

I screwed up, the flop was 3s4c7s. I assume the same logic applies however.

Hero bets 30, V1 calls with tart lips, V2 folds.

Turn 3s4c7s 4h, pot 91, V1 checks, Hero?

1/2 NL 10 man

UTG ($90) some old guy i havent seen go to crazy - raise $10
MP ($400) 40's guy plays alot of hands - re-raise $25
Hero sb ($210) AA

1st is there any way i can just call here, and "hope" UTG re-raises for his $90,then MP re-shoves, or just calls then i re-raise.

or this is a re-raise all the time?

UTG is calling almost always here if you call. You gotta cold 4bet

1/2 NL

Hero (utg) ($220) AJs raise to $12
Villain 1 (utg +1) ($350) middle aged black lady. Just sat down. No reads. Calls
Villain 2 (sb) ($500) middle aged guy. Aggressive preflop but passive after that. Re-raise to $35.
I call and V1 calls. (Pot $105)
Flop A87 rainbow. Hero bets $50. V1 calls. V2 folds.
Turn. J
Hero? Obvious shove right?

Raise enough that if he goes allin for $90 you are free to reraise

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How aggressive has V2 been pre with 3 bets? Even IP AJ is horrible vs the average 3 bettors range.

Did V check flop to you? That important, IMO.

Never fold this after the turn, you're committed and its a trivial shove.

Hasn't had to showdown after 3betting that I can remember. His range pre had been super wide.
I was first to act after flop. I bet and V1 and V2 just called.

How are you first to act post flop when the 3 bettor was in SB? The HH makes no sense.