Turn $55 was really small. I thought I was either good or if not I might get to showdown cheaper and check behind river.

If you're not good V is almost certainly piling it in on the turn? He now has less than a PSB behind, so you're in bad shape if V has basically anything.

Actually now that I think about it, V can have the stone nuts here because of your odd sizing -- he can easily have T9 for flopped OESD, turn was a blocking bet to get the card for cheap plus maintain deception, he calls because LOL 4:1, binks the river, and now is trying to valuebet you.

If you cram turn he's stuck. If you think he's bluffy, call/call. But this in between "might get to showdown cheaper" just isn't the case -- if he's just calling, you probably wanted all the money in, and if he's shoving, how do you know he isn't just spazzing with the draw or AQ?

SPR is 9. I'm looking to stack off against almost no one as the preflop raiser at this SPR as it'll take 3 decent preflop bets. While villain doesn't look like a superstar, it doesn't look like he's blindly spewing money / overvalueing hands either (at least from the HHs).

So I'm cool with the small cbet. I would actually strongly consider folding to the flop check/raise; very few people check/raise TP in this spot against the preflop raiser, imo. I don't hate a call by any means to try and figure things out on later streets in position but I believe this is still fairly dicey against typical passive loose players just trying to hit their cheese and get payed off.

Ditto for turn, which I believe is way closer to a fold than a raise (raise shouldn't even be considered, imo), especially when one of the only draws actually got there. Again, I don't hate a flat if we're not exactly sure what is going on, but we raised preflop, dude check/raised, we continued, and he's still betting into us. Are we playing the worse guy in the room?

I rarely get to the river but now the main draw completed and he's betting a four-liner. What, we think he's taking this line with Qx?

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Apprently he IS the worst guy in the room. As you know he showed up with QTo... luckily for me. Unless he was trying to rep T9 with the blocker. I dunno if he’s on that level. That would mean he min c/r his open ender (bad idea imo).

River sizing? 1/2, $350 effective. Villain is tight, reg in the game that hero is a semi reg, overall plays pretty passively, but plays post flop decently and is a small winner. Villain is a little bit of a station too, but nothing ridiculous.

OTTH

Villain limps LJ, loose passive HJ calls, hero in CO$16 with Ad Kd, and only villain calls.
Flop ($37) JT4r x$20-c
Turn ($77)Qx. $50-c.
($177)T. X-heto?

Would of raised turn, his leading range has to be pretty strong here
AP bet around 100 to get hero'ed by 2pair

Sorry, was supposed to be x-$50-c

1/2, $200 effective, 9 handed.

Villain is on serious tilt. Hero opened $15 from HJ a rotation and a half ago, tight BTN called, and villain shoved all in for $200, and when we both folded he showed Q5o. Villain has check-shoved or shoved over a bet with OP's, sets, draws, and air. Hero has a TAG image.

OTTH

Villain straddles UTG for $9, it's folded to hero in HJ who raises to $35 with 7s 7h and only villain calls.

Flop ($73): 6s 5s 2h. Villain checks, hero bets $35 and villain shoves for $165. Hero?

I mean with that V description I'm snapping here, if you wanted to do anything differently you needed to not bet the flop, but against this V and with these stack sizes (LOL $9 straddle, we're playing 22bbs deep effectively), GII.

1/2, 9 handed, loose passive game. Three limps to hero OTB with 55 who calls, SB calls, and BB checks. BB is a nit, everyone else in the hand is loose passive.

Flop ($12): Q54r. X-x-x-HJ bets $10 and CO folds. Are we supposed to raise or call in this spot?

Stack sizes matter but I usually flat because board is dry and we have position if turn checks around.

Villain had $150, everyone else had $100-$200, and I cover

I definitely flat then. Nice spot.

Got myself into some trouble a couple times yesterday so figured I'd share to get some feedback.

Hand 1:

3-4 limps to me on the button with AdKc. I make it $17, 3 callers- UTG, MP, and CO.

Pot ~70

Flop Ax 10d 3d


Checks to me and I cbet $35, UTG and CO both call.

Pot~$180.

Turn 8d

UTG shoves for $103 and CO shoves for a total of $130.

Hero?


My thinking....Table has been relatively passive. I'm the only one who is really raising and I'm not getting much pushback in the form of 3bets. CO has been limping about 40-50% of hands. UTG passive as well but lower VPIP than CO. I'm sure at least one of them has a flush if not both so we're behind but we're drawing to the nut flush. It would cost of $130 to win like $410 so I guess not quite perfect pot odds for flush but do we still call here? Also, bet more on flop? My standard raise at the table has been between $12-20 depending on limpers.


Hand 2-

A few limps and MP makes it $7. I call in the BB with 77 and limpers call as well. 5 total players in the hand.

Pot $35

Flop is 467sss

Checks to the original raiser who bets $15. I'm next to act and I x/r to $55. UTG limper directly to my left just calls (oof). All other players fold.

Pot $160.

Turn Ah

I have ~140 back and I decide to shove. Villain tank calls and shows Q5ss and scoops when we miss our boat.

My thoughts.... The more I think about, the more I hate the x/r on the flop. I think playing this passively makes a little more sense because we're likely not folding out any flopped flushes and we kind of put ourselves in a mandatory shove spot OTT. But with this line, the only hand we're ahead of when the money goes in OTT is A4-A6 with As or maybe some random suited As hand. I feel like we have to shove on this line because if we're attacking this draw then we either A. Don't get paid on the river if it misses or B. can't really call if the 4th spade comes. I also don't think a weak flush really ever folds on that turn card. I think at the time I though the Ah would entice a call if someone had A4/A6/A7 with As but IDK, it seems pretty weak looking back.

At the end of the day, it seems like we're far from nutted. maybe just flatting the $15 and seeing what UTG villain does makes more sense. We probably still lose depending on his raise size but maybe we can get away from it on the turn and definitely on the river if he fires three streets. Thoughts?

Thanks in advance guys!

I think this is probably a fold. I think your realistic best case is that one of them just caught two pair on this turn and the other has AQ/AJ, in which case you have Ks, Ts, and diamonds to improve. If you're fairly certain one of them has a flush, then it's a fold -- if they have a flush you're drawing thinner than usual to your flushdraw (since it accounts for six of the diamonds, not just four).

This one I would lead for $25 -- you have not only the worst position, but the worst relative position. Ideally, your $25 gets raised by the PFR who has an overpair with or without a big spade, hopefully trapping the field for some money.

As played, I think turn ship is fine. Obviously when he snaps you want a board pair, but I don't think folding a set for these stack sizes is a great way to play.

1/3

Literally this guys first hand buys in for 140

Limps UTG I raise KK to 17 he ranks for about a good 30 seconds an announces 47

Is this the time to fold?

Edit: I did open fold KK and table is shocked

Why the hell would you show anybody?! Even if it's right (and I think it may be, the hollywooding is usually strong), dealing with your image after folding KK preflop is tough.

TBH though, I'm probably just sticking it in, you're 50bbs deep and it's this guy's first hand. I think I'd take KK against an unknown's LRR and just do it. If he's got AA so be it.

I'm never folding kings here. This is a clear jam. If he has aces, then so be it, but we know nothing about this player, and he bought in short which indicates he could be looking to get aggressive.

I was leaving in the next 15 minutes anyways so I didn’t mind.

It was the first time I ever folded KK pre he was disgusted and table changed

I know but the limp RR UTG looked soo strong with the tank.

But it did sway me to thinking like wow this is his FIRST hand and he did this?!

Lol no this is not the time to fold and lolol at showing.

1/2, 9 handed, $200 effective. This is the very beginning of the session, so hero has no image. Villain has been acting wild, has done a little bit of cocaine at the table since we started and is clearly there to gamble.

OTTH

Hero opens A 9 $15 LJ, villain 3 bets to $31 from SB and only hero calls.

Flop ($64): K 7 2. Villain checks. Are we supposed to check and take a free card, or bet and be willing to gii with nfd?

has done a little bit of cocaine at the table

Sounds like a fun casino

Bet $30-35. V will have whiffed AJ-AQ or have TT-QQ and not know what he's doing a lot here. I think you have 12 outs basically every time, so combine that with your FE and this just has to be a bet.

LLSNL players don't c/r enough imo, so I don't think you're risking a c/r much. If he x/cs you're going to have a decision to make on brick turns, I'd probably just free card but trying to blow him off TT-QQ is probably worth doing. In retrospect, betting $40 on the flop so you can just ship turn for $130 as a slightly less than PSB is probably reasonable.

He probably won't be around the card room too much longer. Any thoughts on the hand though?