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Originally Posted by zukes2000
1/3 just sat down 20 minutes ago. Effective stacks 315. V is obviously a reg as I saw him on bravo app and he knows everyone here. He has already limped a few times so not initially too impressed but he generally knows what he is doing. H's first time in this casino, 30s WG, nicely dressed.
V limps from MP, H 15 w/ATo in HJ, SB call, BB call, V call.
Flop (55) KQJr, checks to H, H 50, fold, fold, V calls.
Turn (155) 6, V check, H shoves for 250
Is this a crazy overplay? I just felt there were so many two pairs in his range that he wouldn't fold on the turn...
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I'm fine with preflop, and assuming we didn't expect this poor result of going so multiway.
The SPR on the flop is about 5.5, which means we could play for stacks with 2 overbets. If this is our plan (i.e. betting the turn for stacks), then I think we'd be better off overbetting the flop to make this slightly easier, especially since no one is folding the flop with two pair / pair + OESD / idiot straight / etc. So if that's our plan (which I'm totally cool with), I would have bet upwards of ~$75 on the flop to setup an easier turn shove of about a ~PSB.
If the board contained a flush draw, I think I would definitely plan on getting stacks in just 2 streets. With no flush draw I'm either/or, and I think planning on 2 streets or 3 streets are both reasonable options.
ETA: Unlike others, I'm cooler with your plan so long as we bet much larger on the flop (where we get maximum value from hands that are never folding the flop but will consider folding later streets). There are a crapload of action killing cards (although admittedly not as many as a flush draw board) so doing this ASAP is fine, imo.
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