2-5 game..

EP raise to 20, 3 callers. I’m in the small blind with pocket 10s. Raise or flat? This situation with this specific hand has come up a handful of times over the past few months and it always ends up uncomfortable either way I play it.

Flat and setmine the vast majority of the time. I'd 3! squeeze if EP raiser is loose and none of the callers are particularly sticky.

Yep, realised after that I misplayed flop.

I did puke fold turn which wasn’t fun wth 2NFD and up and down straight draw but was correct.

River blanked, LAG shoved and Asian guy called. LAG J10 and Asian had K8ss.

Check raise may or may not have won me this pot because Asian guy proved very sticky, albeit if I check raise flop cram turn he’s going to find it super hard to station off. But definitely need to check raise flop

Raise flop, especially against that sizing and a flat on that board. They aren't capped, but they are close to it. I doubt he's sizing AK that way.

Flat all day, unless you have some read that the EP raiser is loose.

True that thanks boys.

this hand might warrant a thread solely because it's 400+bb deep but whatever...

2/5 @ casino not too late in the evening

young asian guy limps in MP (~$950)
Hero (late 30's wg, $2100) raises to $25 with 77
BTN (late 20s/early 30's asian guy wearing sunglasses) 3! to $140
*** this is the 2nd time he's 3! my open in LP, 1st time i had AJo and folded, we talked about it afterwards, V claimed AK. he also talked about how he made his sizing bigger because we're so deep, so he has a clue ***

MP calls
Hero calls

Flop ($420): 722r
MP/Hero check
BTN bets $215
MP calls
Hero calls

Turn ($1065): 722r[3r]
MP checks
Hero bets $300

***i feel like i need to bet here because this turn gets checked through a lot i think. i bet 300 specifically because MP has 3 blacks and 3 stacks of red, so if he jams, it reopens the betting. it also might look like a block bet with something like 7x or a PP trying to deny equity to AK, so maybe i get BTN to overplay his hand and raise. thoughts?

BTN calls
MP folds

River ($1665): 722[3][8]

Hero has around 1450 left.

Hero bets $300 again, hopping it looks fishy and V may overplay a hand and jam on him. thoughts?

thanks in advance.

****, that rivership is gross- even though we lose to only 2 hands. I mean, is he ever shipping an overpair here on the river like this with such deep stacks? Many people will say snap on the river, but i think its really close right off the bat.

Love the lead on the turn here by the way (instead of the more common check-raise that looks 10 times stronger), to prevent it getting checked through by overpairs such as 1010-JJ or even QQ+ as well that is trying to avoid building too big of a pot very deepstacked.

was there a ninja edit I missed?

Could certainly make a thread stopping at your turn decision and add some more reads on both players.

AP I would check the turn. you'll gii against QQ+ here regardless, and I'd rather like AK to hang himself with his lol sizings. Could be wrong tho.

Since the cat is already out of the bag from my post, yes: villain shipped the river. Hope it doesent ruin the discussion you wanted Johnny.

I'd swear I could go 100s of hours without seeing the x/c flop, lead turn move at the casino. Since I've started playing in home games, seeing it on the reg. Still working on ranging it, but always(?) the player has a hand, although often overvalued. So confusion points for your turn lead, but it raises suspicion where you want none I think. We want all the chips from KK and QQ and this line probably doesn't get them and I'm not convinced it gets that much more from AK. Maybe?

Probably makes my reply "wrong", so I think it does.

Don't induce/fold obv.

Sailboats: i am not convinced we get all the money from QQ+ everytime in this spot this deep. We should aim to try and get the most though of course, and i think the lead turn line can be amazing in this spot with such deep stacks- where so so many villains will potcontrol check the turn even with big overpairs because they realize how much money it is behind and they are uncomfortable stacking off.

The lead basically forces villain to put more money into the pot with all his big overpair combos-because extremely few are capable of folding an overpair on this kind of good board. I dont use this line enough myself to be honest, but i still love the thought and conept behind it so its something i am looking to incorporate more often in my game if the spot calls for it.

Hand is not deep in lol Philly when Villain gets 3 way action at that sizing. Stacks will go in easier than you are thinking - imo obv.

even with the extra caller, pre is dubious, I assume you already know that Mr. Spot.

If there was an edit (I honestly forget if I edited the post), it wasn't related to what V did OTR



Hand is not in Philly, I was not at my normal casinos.

Probably, but I can't just continually fold to 3!s from V and this would have been 2 of 2. So I need to start calling somewhere and I can just wait to call when I get a premium. At least PP gives me a straight path to showdown/folding post most of the time

do we have BTN's stack size?

I think turn bet is fine.

I'd bet river larger. I get the bet small to induce line, but most villains are most likely to check raise turn if they're in the mood to jam with an overpair. So, as much sense as the 'bet small to induce' is the 'cram to make it look like we're bluffing' line, but I don't want to give him the chance to make a crying fold but we want to make sure we get the max value.

Once he check calls turn, he's pot controlling with an overpair to get to showdown imo and while there's probably some price sensitivity, I think we can extract more value. I'd bet $550 ish

Btn covers hero. Sorry, I didn't realize I missed that

[ ] btn can check raise and check called in this hand

In Aussieland BTN is first to act.

yes, you got me. still think the turn lead and think you should be betting river bigger

good thing you clarified