I can get behind the idea of balancing our bluffs/value in this spot. A small bet will take care of that.

On the same thought though, if we want to balance our range in this spot then we should also be balancing our checking range by checking value hands as well, right?

Again, not that I care about balancing vs my current 2/3 V. They don't care nor, imo, are they capable of taking advantage

This is a much different spot than having KK on an A-high dry flop. On A-high flops Villains are much less likely to peel with backdoor draws, lower pairs, etc. simply because so much of Hero's range as the PFR includes Ax.

On paired flops, however, and heads up, villains are notoriously non-believers. They will never put you on Jx betting JJx flop because "why wouldn't you slow play it." AA is of course just one pip below Jx here, so it's more or less the same relative hand strength. Add to that the fabled "put you on AK" theory, and it's a spot where we should be betting our whole range, because they will call with 8x, other pocket pairs, and straight draws including gutshots.

For that reason, Balerion, no need to balance our checking range with value hands. We shouldn't have a checking range here. Bet your whole range (with small sizing). This lets us extract value from the weaker parts of V's range, and costs us less when we are bluffing.

Swoly, is your plan to bet all 3 postflop streets? Unless we're known to barrel whiffed AK (so admittedly image dependent), I just think we eventually run into hands that beat us far too often on this board (mainly Jx who happily lets us spew into them until raising the river).

GimoG

I think my most likely line on most runouts is bet flop (calling a raise, but assuming V just calls), b/f turn, c/c river.

I could get on board for b/f river too though at a smallish size. That's a good question GG, I'm not sure which river line is ideal.

It may be anecdotal, but I just see Vs call down way lighter than expected on these boards. They sit with their A8/99/TT type hands and wonder "if you had QQ-AA wouldn't you be scared of the Jack? I put you on AK."

Two ****ty spots.

H1: can I fold a boat agaisnt an OMC?

Bunch of limps pre, I limp 5c5s OTB.

Flop: A63 all hearts.

5 checks.

Turn 5h.

Checks to OMC who bets $5 I call and woman calls the SB.

River 6.

He bets $15, woman folds out of turn, I raise to $55, he jams for $105.

Seems crazy to fold a boat but I just can’t imagine he’s ripping it with the Kh.

Not spoiling anything I think to say I called and he showed quads.

H2:

Villain is 50’s middle eastern guy. Most of the times he has raised he’s had it but I saw him bluff twice. I saw him donk Q6dd on a 45T two diamond board and then 3 bet jam. I also saw him jam QJ on a J high board but he wasn’t that deep at the time and was a little tilted. He has since sucked out in the Q6 hand and now is $350 deep.

Limp, villain limps from +2. Hero makes it $20 OTB with AhKh. Villain calls.

Flop: Qs9c8c.

Cc.

Turn Ad.

C. Hero bets $30. Villain raises to $60 hero calls.

River 5c.

Villain bets $80.

Curious how you range villain on the turn after checking twice and then minraisng.

You never tell us the stakes, assume it's 1/3 given various amounts.

In H1 you don't say if he jams for 105 more or total. It's a very easy call for 55 more because he can just have 33. Little more dubious for $105 more but I'm calling anyway. There's some equity that he didn't notice the board pair.

H2, very easy turn fold. Your hand looks like what it is and villain doesn't want you to fold.

1/2.

55 more 105 total.

I figured it’s an easy call but just wanted to check.

H2. Agreed. I’ve just seen him spazz raise top pair before and leveled myself into thinking he was playing back at me because my hand was face up. Anyway, I folded river and he showed QQ...

I swear you could pretty much sum up how to respond to aggression in LLSNL as "figure out what your opponent wants you to do and then do the opposite". Probably like 1 in 500 LLSNL players are capable of minraising the turn with a range that is anything but 100% hands where they are desperately hoping their opponent doesn't fold. Sizing tells might be the #1 most underrated tool at LLSNL. I have a vague feeling I've posted this before, but then I often get that feeling when a little stoned.

Typical loose passive 1/2

Raise button to 20, 3 callers. AQ.

Flop Q93 two clubs. Check to me, bet 50, unknown 20s middle eastern guy raises to 150.

350 effective

do you have a club?

what position is the check/raiser in?

No club, raiser is in ep

I folded and felt fine about it, just checking, I just assume 1/2 players aggression is always made hands unless someone shows they're capable of anything else

yeah i let it go barring other reads, especially if he's check/raising into the world

1/3 Homegame last friday, me and a my good friend is the only good players in the game- the rest is semiregs/ losing fish with various kind of leaks. Looking for kind of a linecheck and some other opinions on this spot.

Villain in this hand is one of the biggest losers in this game. He is one of two big fishes that the game is built around, and he repeatedly loses 300-500 BB pr night in this game. Recently he has been "studying" alot, wich have brought his ego to new hights for no reason. I have him to my direct right (jesusseat i know), and he is attacking my big blind with a very wide range this evening- mostly because he is down alot and is steaming as usual.

Hero is in big blind with 5-6 hearts, 100 BB effective stacks. Folded around to steaming villain in the SB who is raising to 3 big blinds, we obviously defend in position. I dont think folding is a possibility for anybody, but if somebody is advocating a light 3 bet with described dynamics fire away.

Flop comes 348. Villain bets 5 BB, wich is standard C-bet size for him, i elect to just call with my open ender. Turn is the K, wich gives us heaps of more equity as we improve to a big combodraw.

Villain doesent slow down, he fires again- 12 BB into the pot of 16 BB. Hero?

Do we have any FE if we raise?
If yes, raise.
If no, easy call and value big on all rivers that we hit.

I mean, to play devils advocate a little bit- we always have _some_ fold equity, but we kind of have to weigh that up against the pros and cons of flatting versus raising.

One of the things that strikes me in these kind of spots, is that it can be hard to gauge just how much fold equity you have in reality against tilted villains who is not thinking like they normally does- like if they are breakeven or winning in the game.

That being said, with a 15 outs combodraw like this i feel like raising the turn/stackoff is hardly ever a large mistake with standard 100 BB stacks- question is what is the most +EV line, flatting or raising.

raising is way better imo as from description given Villain should have more hands that can fold turn than pay off river

Prefer flatting here because either one of our draws will be more disguised than usual if they hit. The turn hits V's range so we can't rep much with a turn raise except a slowplayed flopped set.

i like a call and a river call if we river a pair

2/3 we whif AK, DB, give up river or empty the clip?

8 Handed late night game, H has a winning tag image, V has also been winning and Taggy, been straddling all night, haven't seen him out of line too often other than cbet flops and give up on later streets. Will def call flop if he catches a peace. 650 eff.


H opens 15 with AK folds to V in bb, calls, hu.
F(30): T73 x, H 20, V call.
T(70): Q x, H db 50, V call.
R(170): 6 x, H?

The open ended got there, we're obviously not getting him off of that or random two pair. I figured he's fold his Tx on the T Qx, if we barrel here it's strickly to get him off of Tx, possible 88-99 and we're beating all of his back door missed FDs.


triple barrel with a clean image or check back and hope we're good?

I prefer 3x opens, fwiw.

I check back this flop mostly, as we have very limited FE, if betting, I'd go 1/2 pot.

AP, probably also barrel the turn assuming we think he'll give up on 7x,88.

AP, I check back the river. No idea what we're trying to get to fold in this spot, and it mostly won't work.

Anyway, result from my 5-6 suited hand: i went with the aggressive route on the turn, and raised it 4x his bet to put the pressure on. Like i felt at the time he did play alot of hands against me, wich is a bigger argument for raising the turn (his overall range is weaker and big parts of it really cant stand alot of heat). Plus i really feel like from an overall range point of view, its hard to just call with 6 high=zero showdown value, but at the same time i have piles of equity with my 15 out combodraw. Its not 100 percent optimal to raise given that villain is kind of steaming and thus we may have reduced fold equity here, but i mean you cant have everything you ask for either.

Villain unfortunately had QQ this time, he wasnt in any mood to fold this hand being buried in the game despite the K overcard on the turn- and we got it in on the turn as he shipped on me. Brick city on the river for me obviously, the well known "too many outs syndrome"

Live $1/2 NL Full Ring

Hero is UTG+1 with a $75 stack

Blinds Post, Cards are dealt

UTG - Fold
UTG+1(Hero) - Opens $8
UTG+2 - Fold
LJ - Fold
HJ - Fold
CO - Raise to $28
BTN - Call
SB - Fold
BB - Fold


What should Hero's ranges here be? Call Range? 4 bet range? Shove Range?

No reason to have a call range here, it's a shove or fold. You have no FE. Your open range should be super tight, so you can stick most/all of that range in here.

You played this hand very well. Just a cooler because he was tilted and made a poor call given what you were repping.

What's the loosest holding you'd open here?