Quick checkup folks. I know some people will say bet flop. That's fine but I'm really concerned w river.

2/5

KK utg raise to 25. Button call Bb call. K23 rainbow. Cheks around. 4 complete rainbow. Bb check. Hero bet 45. Button fold. Bb call. River 6. Bb goes allin for 140 (just under a psb)

I fold.

BB is 45 yr old Indian fella. No reads this is hand 4 at table.

Don't actually mind flop check at all with no previous experience at the table. We've destroyed a dry board here so not sure how much value we can expect and from what.

I mean yea, I guess we're folding here. Unless the guy is just spaz city but we have no reason to believe that. This is pretty consistent with 55 A5s, crap like that.

wp.
occasionally you're good on the river, but not 1/3 of the time.

I think I may be betting the turn too often in this spot.

1/3. I check J9o in the BB. Five-way pot.

Flop is J93 with two diamonds. I lead out for 10. (I don't always bet, but I sometimes do and decided to here.) One caller.

Turn is another jack, giving me top boat. I bet 25. Villain folds.

My image is tight. Anyone who is chasing a straight or flush draw against me and hits on the river is almost never raising me on the last bet. Anyone who has a jack is often just calling me down because they are worried about being outkicked or being up against a boat.

Think I like betting smaller on turn and checking river. To let him bluff if he misses and to raise if he hits.

I like the way you play it. This is a good default. Everything in poker "depends" but yeah don't beat yourself up.

My default is to check the flop, but once I bet the flop, I'm always betting the turn, for an amount at least half the pot but usually less than two-thirds of the pot.

Betting flop seems better to me. So much value from draws and Jx. Also c/r get a lot of respect an will fold out a lot of stuff in my experience.

Check call flop and check turn is giving free cards to draws when you don't boat. Also giving up value that way for when people want to chase without proper odds.

Not trying to be argumentative here. Just surprised to hear that and trying to understand your thought process

I suspect the biggest thing here is table image and your player pool.

If I recall u play in a small pool and you have a tight/nit image. If that's the case then yeah you might have to be more deceptive to get paid.

Bet/bet/bet would be my default here; I would probably only deviate against aggro players.

Gnicehand,imoG

Bet less on the turn. Player dependant of course. I think a check/call turn, check/raise line is awesome against LAG´s.

I too am surprised your default is to c/r this flop. I guess you are mostly raising huge? A lot of ugly turn cards.

nh.

I don't mind a flop check at all, there really isn't much for hero to target and there isn't much to protect your equity against.

River fold looks good, bb has a lot of 5s in range. This is never a bluff, and hard to see him value jamming worse. Set of 6's maybe. Don't think you are good here 33%.

My default isn't to c/r, it's to check and to consider c/r, c/c lead turn, and c/c check turn, depending on how who bets and how much and other criteria.

I am basically not as afraid of giving free cards as other people. If it checks through, that also means no one probably has a Jx hand because most other players are afraid of giving free cards to draws.

I also consider position here. If I bet and get called, there are few turn cards that make me happy if I bet and get raised. I would rarely check this hand OTB.

1/2 4 handed. Villian and hero both have 400BB Lost a bunch of players in last 5 minutes.

Villian is a reg. Aggro. All suited connectors are in his opening range UTG at full table. Kinda bad postflop. Has bet sizing tells and is kind of weak. Always buys in deep. A fair bit of semi bluffing and capable of making a move. Earlier tonight he opened 54s UTG, got two callers. bet 2/3 pot on 76Q flop, 1 caller. Turn Ace, other guy donked 60% of pot and he min raised and got other guy to fold.

Hero is playing TAG. A bit card dead. Have only showed down big hands. Raised last couple of buttons, c bet and scooped. Obviously have opened my range from full ring but don´t think table has caught on. Have had Villians number in the past. Made some hero calls against him. Always seem to end up with the best hand at showdown against him. Villian made some comment tonight about ''hero always having the nuts''.

V opens for $10 UTG, hero raises 88 to $30, folded around to V who calls.

Flop: (55) 9T3 rainbow

V bets $20, hero raises to $80.

Good aggressive poker? Or Spew? Might have barrelled any non QT9 turn if called, and V didn´t look pleased. Hard to say. Maybe just giving up.

Quite reasonable if based on bet-sizing tells.

I guess some of this might depend on stack size (i.e. are we cool with committing with top two pair in a limped pot?), but overall I'm guessing the flop is a pretty clear bet as draws (of which there could be a decent amount of on this board) might not always bet (so lets get value from those hands ASAP). We're not worried about being drawn out on per se (the pot is tiny, big deal); we're worried about missing a value bet. As well, if we are cool with stacking off, having a street check thru will probably make it difficult to do so (and we miss huge value against that weak J that somehow checked the flop).

GimoG

puke... I've lost so many big pots lately I'm starting to second guess myself.

Anyone see anything wrong here?

1/2NL. Very soft table. Hero running over and getting most pots OTF when Vs all x/f their wiffs.

Folds to Hero (covers, UTG+2) T 9 who opens to $10. V1 (MP, $250) calls, V2 (CO, $200) calls, V3 (BU, $300) calls.

Flop ($35) T 9 5

H checks, V1 bets $25, V2 folds, V3 calls.

Pot is $85, H x/r to $100.

Pot is $185 to V1 who shoves $140 more. V3 tank/folds.

Pot is $400 to H who calls $140.

with that flop and your image I think you have to go with it.

If you want to "get back to basics", you could stop opening T9s in EP, but it sounds like it was working for you.

Standard 1/2NL table. Hero has losing image.

Hero ($350, BB) with K7s checks his option. 6 ways to the flop.

V1 ($350, UTG) 20s WG TPA regular. Tends to play on the nitty side. Passive until he hits, then bet sizing is not bad.


Flop ($10) K 7 8 rainbow.

Hero leads $10, 2 callers.

Turn ($35) K 7 8 K

Hero leads $25, V1 calls.


River ($85) K 7 8 K Ax

Hero pauses to get a sideways look at V1 -- no read.

Hero bets $50. V1 in stride raises to $100 by tossing out 4 green chips.

Hero tank/calls.

Thoughts?

No doubt, opening T9s in EP at a full table is not exactly ABC. But the table was playing f/f OTF so I was opening SC+ from all positions.

I'd probably wouldn't open preflop. Aren't we going to have to hit our hand postflop 4ways (which I'm guessing is the expected result)?

I'd probably just PSB/PSB/PSB for stacks. Check/raise just possibly blows people off mediocre hands (we don't want that).

Thanks to preflop (good or bad), we're committed on the flop with these stacks on this board. So I'm also calling it off as played.

GimoG

Wow, weird line by v for sure. You'd think he'd get a raise in with 8's full OTT. We block other K's full, so the only other hand I can think of a super-passive AA. I think it's AA here a non-zero % of the time - he limped with AA looking for the re-raise and didn't get it then went back into trappy mode OTF.

K paired and he's like "hell naw, I ain't folding AA here now."

He fills up on the river and finally decides to go for MAX VALUE.

wp v, wp.

Both hands look fine to me.

I would bet the flop with 9T but your way is of course fine.

You deffinitely should not be worried at all about losing these hands.

Given the odds we are getting on the river, and the fact we beat 88/77 or overvalued Kx or some 1% percentage of spew/busted draw, I think we have to at least call. Is the question whether to raise? He could have limped AK/AA in EP. I doubt he's got K8 in EP (although maybe sooted?). He certainly probably pays off a raise with Kx. If we do raise, don't we have to commit since 88/77 could consider themselves nuttish? But then we just stacked off in a limped pot.

Gnicehand,imo;sorryyouranintoAAG

Why so small on the x/r? looks fine o/w... cooler

I think I would either overbet turn or x/r, but that might be results oriented.

AP, river sizing is tough to say without reads, and whether it is b/f or b/c or x/c, gotta call the lol minraise almost always because it could be 8s full.