I am pretty much a tourist OMC but once at the Wynn recently i did make a spite call.

Regs kept on bombing mixed draws with low connectors and then showed me once too often.

So the next guy who did something like that got a spite call.

He was extremely annoyed.

Another time February at the Commerce $100 a maniac kept bombing blind raises and pot sized bets - after the fifth one he got a spite call from a sad sack reg who I have never seen win. Maniac wasn't all that annoyed - and naturally got paid off any time he had anything. (Wasn't enough in payoffs, he still stacked off ten BI's eventually.)

But it takes IMO special circumstances to trigger a spite call. I've only done it that once and it was probably tilt anyhow.

IMO it's very common for AK, AA, KK, and QQ to limp reraise from early position in 1/2.

But even saying that, even the OMC that I am isn't folding QQ for that sizing.

I like the play.

We probably drop V1.

V2 could easily have Ak or AQ.

Maybe that's a leak for me.

But 1/2 games are not that predictable.

[sorry wrong post]

1/3 NL, 10 handed

Villain ($190) is late 50's mustachioed white guy. Never played with him before, but he seems horrible in the first little bit I've played with him. Limp/called crap with a shortish stack, hit a small TP and stacked off HU on the flop to the raiser versus overpair. Re-bought in for minimum, chased gutshot and hit on the turn to double up.

Hero (covers), middle aged white guy who hasn't done anything since Villain has been at table.

Preflop: 5 limps to Hero who checks his BB with 94o.

Flop (6ways, $18): Q94hh, Hero donks $10 (should probably go more but I have this rule about stacking off in limped pots), Villain first to call, 3 other calls (lol, tough game).

Turn (5ways, $65): 2r, Hero bets $50 (probably to fold against most raisers), only Villain calls.

River (2ways, $165): 7r, Hero shoves $130 into $165.

Nothing to see here, right?

GquickcheckupG

Standard.

It's okay to stack off in limped pots when the situation calls for it. If this guy is stacking off with TP always, let's get the $$$ in.

Ya, that's what I figured. If he had shown any bluffing tendencies I *might* have considered a check to induce on the river, but he looked stationish so I just went for value against Qx.

GcluelessNLnoobG

I get why you want to bet/bet/bet versus a station, but I don't understand your first point. If we have a loose/bluffy image, why would we ever want to check a value hand versus a weak/passive opponent?

I think you misread? If *he* (not *we*) had shown any bluffing/aggro tendencies I might have checked to induce a bluff.

Gprettysurewe'reonthesamepageG

I did mis-read. My apologies.

Thoughts on this pre-flop spot?

In general, the table is very loose/passive and limp/cally. Stacks vary from 125 to 400.

Hero (covers all) has a winning tag image.

Villain ($150), a 40ish woman, is a rec player who is limping her whole range. She's showed down QQ/JJ and the normal trash, and has been limping roughly 35-40% of pots.

Villain limps UTG, one fold, hero has ATo.

What's your play?

other than quibbling about your flop sizing--I bet 15--looks good to me.

So like 10 handed table and we're UTG+2? How likely is a raise in this EP here going to thin the field? I probably lean towards a muck here unless table is quite tight / ABC and there's a good chance of getting HU vs the limper.

GcluelessNLnoobG

+1 to all. Raise to isolate in better position, but not from here.

Yes 10 handed UTG +2. Thanks for feedback my thoughts were similar and in-game I folded. But I prob raise to I so from mid position or with slightly better hand

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Should I be turning my hand into a bluff here?

1/3 NL, 10 handed

Villain is older guy who rarely raises preflop, especially in EP (i.e. overpair is definitely in his range). Overall too loose both preflop and postflop. Not bluffy.

Villain limps UTG, 2 more limps, I complete 98dd in the SB, BB checks. 5ways to 986hh flop, I donk $10, he's the only caller. 3h turn, check/check (ok, or perhaps I should just bet/fold this?). Th river (four-to-a-flush, 4-to-a-straight). $35 in the pot.

He's never going to bluff at it nor bet anything other than a big flush (A/K, maybe Q). But he could definitely fold straights and baby flushes.

Is this a spot I should be turning my hand into a bluff? Or do I simply have enough showdown value to check/fold?



GcluelessNLnoobG

He's not turning his hand into a bluff, and will call a bet with any decent-sized heart so I think x/f is the river play.

IMO you're missing value by not betting the turn.

Ya, looking back on it I think I should have bet/folded the turn. Overpairs + flush draw have a lotta outs and it sucks giving them a free card.

GcluelessNLnoobG

It's not about giving them a free card, it's about putting extra money in against worse hands.

But yeah, honestly I would say just c/f river and take your showdown value.

Another annoying preflop spot.

1/3NL ten-handed, stack sizes ranging from 200-600, hero has 400. The table is loose and cally. A raise of anything less than 20 is unlikely to thin the field.

The first four players limp, hero looks at KToffsoot.

Calling or folding are fine. While we may be ahead of the limpers' ranges, we aren't sure if a raise will thin the field and buy us the button. whether to call or fold depend on how well you play post.

I would limp it and play very cautiously on all but the best boards. On a loose and cally table, we can get a couple streets if checked to us on good boards like T72 or K53, but in a multiway pot, those T78 and KJ9 boards are a situation I'm looking for a single street then evaluating and/or trying to find a fold when someone bets. Definitely need to play well post to make a good profit on this hand, as losing an extra bet when you're behind will be a killer.

I'm pretty happy to overlimp here (I'd even just overlimp with suited here too). We get to see a cheap flop for less than 1% of our stack and looks like we'll likely have position on the majority of the players (we might even end up with absolute position if those behind us fold). I'm playing very cautiously postflop with just TP and it's not going to take much for me to fold (even something as little as a tighter guy donking the flop).

With this many limpers at this type of table, it's simply going to take one guy calling in the blinds (all aboard!) and we'll have a 6way pot with a horrible hand to play a bloated pot with. If the possibility of creating a bloated pot is high, we better have a hand that can stand the heat, imo.

GlimpylimpyG

thanks for the feedback, guys. Fortunately I'm a masterful post-flop player--thanks to my double (and/or triple) merge-ranging abilities--and can navigate these kinds of tricky spots with ease.

It depends on your image. If you're losing and people aren't respecting you, overlimp and see if you can get some value postflop. If you're winning and people are staying out of your way, raise it up and make it big -- there's enough dead money in play that you're ok with everyone just folding if it comes to that, and in limped pots everyone is SO capped anyway.

(And when I say make it big, I mean a raise with balls -- I'd probably make it 30. I mean, there's already $16 of dead money in play.)