IMO without flopping a set that flop is as good as it gets with 88 and with the ******ed raise sizing from our villain i am not folding in this spot either. That kind of overbet is extremly rarely a made monsterhand in my experience.

With two limpers and because we are OOP this hand i like to make it a little bit bigger pre also. It lowers the SPR and make the hand somewhat easier to play from the blinds. 21-25$ ish after 2 limpers sounds good to me.

1/3
Hero: losing agro image
V1: massive station with any piece/draw. Terrible atc rec fish.
V2: reasonable so far, no good reads. Doesn't raise much pre.

Hero opens HJ ($ Covers) with A2s to $13
V1 CO ($100) calls
V2 BTN ($300) calls

Flop ($38) 652r
Hero bets $18
V1 folds
V2 calls

Turn ($74) Tx
Ck
Ck

River ($76) 7x
Ck
V bets $25
Hero folds

Thoughts?

U think he has A4?

Nope.
I think the river is pretty standard I cant really beat anything except floats and exactly A4, just wasn't 100% on the turn.

Betting turn into an awful station would be spew. Checking is optimal.

Villain just table changed. Middle aged foreignerror around $400. Chips aren't neat.

1/3, I cover

2 limps I open AA to 14, 3 calls I have position.

9TJ, two spades I have As, checks to me I bet 56$, V calls

3s, V bets 12, I call

Qo, V bets 75$, I fold with1200$ behind

Not so subtle brag on your stack size?
River fold is standard.
Turn call is standard.
Pre is also to small in general. I'm opening $14 in unopened pots a lot of the time. We can normally tack on $2-$5 more for value.

I go smaller on flop, prolly like 45

high variance but I think I raise turn because he has a lot of one pair hands that just picked up a fd

fold riv is obv, wp overall

I hate playing bloated pots OOP, especially when I'm going to hate a lot of flops. So I probably just limp preflop. I'd be much cooler with a preflop raise if we were in position.

Without super reads, I'd probably commit here. Villain didn't limp/reraise us, so it's unlikely a huge overpair. 55/22 would probably just flat the flop to bring along the other guy. We're ahead of draws and some overpairs; we're behind some overpairs.

GmehG

With our aggro image (i.e. I'm assuming low FE both preflop and postflop) and super fish behind us, I think I'd be cool with an open limp here. Plus it's not as if we're going to be able to barrel the fish off anything postflop either. But I'm super limpy like that.

I think I'm ok with the small flop bet to protect what could be the best hand against a bunch of overcards.

With a losing aggro image against a reasonable player, I'm also done with the hand once he calls.

I like the river fold. There just don't seem to be any busted draws here (and even 87 kinda did get there). Is he really making a small bluff with A high? doubt it.

GlikespostflopG

Minor point that you're probably well aware of. I wouldn't open-limp if first in but if two guys behind you call all your raises and force you to play OOP, I'd seat change or open stronger hands. OOP sucks balls.

I'm 50% 50% here between c/f and cbet flop, given your image and the way your sesh is prolly going i would c/f flop

as played easy give up once called

Yeah I wouldn't bet flop. Awful player's stack size makes it way too awkward to try to set anything up, so we are literally just 5 out semi bluffing flop OOP to two opponents. Also would consider limping pre with the type of players and stack sizes we have in position on us. As played fold river.

1/3 NL, 10 handed

Hero ($600): Middle aged white guy with a beard and glasses and ballcap, big stack at the table, hasn't done a thing in the orbit or so Villain has been at the table.

Villain ($190): Late 20's white guy, ballcap, casually dressed. I've never seen him before (and he's never seen me) so I'm assuming noobish although I haven't been paying great attention (my bad). He's only been here an orbit, hasn't done anything of note. Bought in for $200 (max BI is $300) and limped/folded some pots.

Preflop (10 players):
A limp, Villain in EP raises to a "standard" $15, 3 calls, I call in the SB with T 9 , limper calls

[Flop is gonna be 6ways, I gotta, right?]

Flop (6 players, $90): T 8 6

Checked to Villain who bets $35, folds to Hero who calls, limper folds

[Getting about 4:1, I figure if he's most likely on an overpair I probably have 9 outs, although admittedly I might not have terrific implied odds on all of those. But I gotta, right?]

Turn (2 players, $160): 2

Checked to Villain who bets $50, leaving $90 behind.

So, getting just over 4:1 and most likely having 9ish outs, plus I don't think he'll ever be able to fold even to a scary looking card with so little left. I don't plan on calling river shove unless I improve.

Gotta call, right?

Felt like a horrible calling station in this one, but it's fine, right?

GhandfeltRapiniG

I think I would rather be lead/folding the flop than check/calling.

Check calling is better. Your hand is too good to give up to a raise, but not good enough to call a raise or reraise to get it in.
Plus you want him to cbet his overs.

Once i check and he bets so small however, i might check raise, and bet big on the turn. Only problems are that you arent deep enough, we dont really have reads on the guy yet, and this kind of line is probably not GG's style. Actually it would be better to c/r otf it if you are both deeper, and there is at least 1 diamond otf.

Snowball, do we think Villain is bluffing? Do we think an unknown with no history is ever folding an overpair here?

GagreewithyourcheckingtheflopcommentsG

I am not sure I agree that my hand is too good to give up to a raise. Plus, this being a 6-way pot or whatever, I don't expect overs to c-bet too much.

That said I don't love leading either. I don't love any option here. (And I'm with you, Snowball, that it's pretty annoying there isn't even one diamond.)

I mean, leading seems bad, check/calling seems bad, and check/raising seems bad because we don't know if Villain has a bet/folding range.

Do spots like this mean we are better off folding preflop? How deep are the other limpers? Because $190 is definitely not deep enough to be calling; if the other callers are $200-300 deep this may be a fold preflop.

Some others are $300+ like myself.

I thought checking the flop was better because then I can evaluate the action for cheap. If there's a bet and a raise, obviously I have to fold. If raiser bets (gotta be an overpair, right?) then I can play pretty well against him, but if he gets some calls then I have to now discount some of my outs, etc. and maybe just have to fold now. I guess leading works out great if I'm in the lead, but 6ways someone should probably have something and now I'm just building a big pot OOP with a fairly so-so hand.

GmyflopthoughtsG

Nope, thats why i said you had to be deeper to have any kind of FE against over pairs. The board is pretty bad for an EP open's range and you block a lot of hands, it's a spot where you can profitably barrel with really good equity.

I dont mind check calling at least the flop just because the bet is so little and im closing the action, and have good enough equity in the hand.

I said its not good enough to call a raise because if you bet, and get called before you get raised by someone else, you could be doing poorly against bigger draws. Furthermore, the range you are facing is a lot stronger when you get raised, rather than if you just check call, with the latter allowing you to continue in the hand with better equity.

I def call preflop. Doesnt matter he's only $200 deep. You are not only getting direct odds with a pretty good hand, as well as implied odds with other deeper stacks who are in the hand. You also have $3 in already as the bb.

so a flop check raise is out of the question? I like our relative position- we cleared out everyone but one guy, a limp/caller. His bet sizing seems pretty wimpy.

I check/evaluate and then raise over his tiny betsize

Pre can be just borderline or pretty terrible if the stacks in between are also smallish

tough one imo

I fold this spot a lot

some guys just always have you beat here when they show aggression

2/3 NL

V - middle aged Asian lady. Been at table an orbit or two. Raised once or twice, no showdowns yet. $200.

H - 30's white guy. $800.

Couple of limps to V who raises to $15 in MP. H is next to act w AQo. Hero flats. Couple of callers and we go to a flop.

Flop (~$60) - AK6r. Checks to V. V bets $40. Hero?

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Is it worth the 6mo sub?

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