I hate preflop. This small raise is not going to thin the field where we will have zero FE / steal equity postflop. We could also face a limp/reraise and have to fold (which sucks so much). All we are doing is absolutely decimating our implied odds for setmining. If we're going to raise to try and make money by getting a caller and then cbetting, ok, whatever, not my preference, but fine, but lets actually make a raise that will accomplish that. Otherwise, super easy overlimp for me.

I would also bet small here on the flop when it is checked to me. There is somewhat of a chance that our hand is actually best but it is very vulnerable. It's also possible that we might even fold out better hands (slightly bigger overpairs) or get called by worse (flush draw). When check/raised, the opponent is obviously committing his stack; I would give up.

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I would typically just check here. With 6 players in the pot, it's going to take one early position caller to have a ~7way flop here (seriously, right?). We have a nice multiway hand and a sky high SPR if we limp, let's do that instead and ~nutmine, imo.

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1/2 I'm pretty new to the game in more ways than one.

3 limpers, cutoff with 300 raises to 15, folds to me in the small blind with AKo, I 3 bet to 55 leaving me 195 behind, folds to the cutoff and he calls.

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Reads on CO would help but im just content to check/fold this down. You will be very suprised how often the hand will check sown and you will beat AJ. No need to risk 65 on a cbet since he is unlikely to fold an overpair.

1/2

I'm in bb with 100bb AA

Villain is lag, pretty much the definition. Always in raised pots, will take lead when checked to and fire multiple streets. 180$

Straddled pot, a few calls including villain on button. I raise to 16. Two callers.

Flop king high two diamonds. I lead for 30, villain calls.

Turn, another king. Hero?

I c/c 50

River, A. I shove, villain snap calls with 7 high flush.

I have a hard time in these kind of turn spots oop. If I check villain bets almost his entire range, if I lead I don't want to be raised by his K or flush draw.

I dont understand this... He is aggro post when he has a hand, but you put him on a draw? Also, small x/r are generally value-heavy... If anything big x/r would be a draw but based on your description of V i doubt he takes this line with a draw

By "passive pre" i assume you mean "loose passive pre" which means there are plenty of 6s, 33, flush draws, and 45 in his range. Does he limp call big pairs like JJ+ here? Is he really check/raising with 77-99? I wish we had better reads on his postflop aggression.

That said, I am calling and check/reeval turn and likely folding to more aggression. The only reason I call is on the off chance he is overplaying a pocket pair. I could be wrong about limp/calling ranges from this V at 5/10, but I think we are beat here pretty often.

Would be helpful if you provided what the flop actually was, and where the third diamond landed (turn or river)? Pretty much impossible to give advice on turn or river without this info.

Raise much bigger pre. Assume this is 1/3, $6 straddle? with a "few calls" the pot is 24, and your raise is just a 1/3pot bet. You want way more value for your Aces, and you also don't want to go 5-way to a flop.

Flop cbet could be a little bigger, again for value, but I don't hate it.

Turn gets a little tricky, it depends on the board whether check/call or bet/bet is the correct line. With the second K on the turn, there are not a lot of K's in V's range except some Kx suited. More combos of small pairs and flush draws (and possibly other stuff since you didn't provide us the flop cards). I would rather bet to get value from these rather than give V a free card to the flush.

River practically plays itself, but if we didn't spike a boat, I would check/call non-diamonds and check/fold a diamond versus this villain.

Tips for playing 1/3 with 50$ splashed pot

all in

villain is cashed up whale, has been opening 6x wide and is splashing around while drinking.. villain would view me as tag/nit

$5/5 150bb effective.
Villain open $30, I call button TT
T87
Check, I bet $45
2
Check, I bet $110
9 ($375)
Villain donk $175

getting 3:1 do we need to just pay this off? I feel like if bet was any bigger I can easily fold but are we getting too good of a price here?
I would think villain would bet flush draws on this flop but I am not sure. So this is more likely a value bet with 2p+

Hand 1
villain is cashed up whale, has been opening 6x wide and is splashing around while drinking.. villain would view me as tag/nit

$5/5 150bb effective.
Villain open $30, I call button TT
T87
Check, I bet $45
2
Check, I bet $110
9 ($375)
Villain donk $175

getting 3:1 do we need to just pay this off? I feel like if bet was any bigger I can easily fold but are we getting too good of a price here?
I would think villain would be flush draws on this flop but I am not sure. So this is more likely a value bet with 2p+

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Hand 2 I think this one is more trivial but I thought I would post it anyway.

$2/4 100bb effective.
I iso a limper $20 with 55, sb fish calls. pot heads up.
257
I bet $40, sb call.
3
I bet $80, sb call
9
SB donk $125, hero?

This might be threadworthy idk.

V1: Tight early 20s male. Plays premiums only. Seems solid enough but might be too tight as I've seen him lay down monsters multiple times (Not sure if correctly or not). We've talked a little bit and I believe he also views me as a solid player as we haven't played a hand together in the multiple hours we've been at the table together. We have joked about always missing with AK which stupidly factors into this hand.
V2: Likes to limp and call raises pre to see a flop. Not really a factor here.

Pre: 7 handed. V2 limps MP. Folds to me in the SB with AA. Raise to 12. V1 in the BB had his chips knocked over by the dealer and takes a long time to think and just calls. V2 also calls.

Flop: Q83

Hero bets 25, V1 takes his time again and just calls. V2 folds.

Right now I'm thinking his range is AQ, QQ, 88, AK with a small chance of KQ or JJ and a tiny chance of 33. I've seen him flat with QQ pre before and I think he would 3bet KK but not entirely sure how he would play it against me.

Turn: 4

This card doesn't improve either of our hands, we both know this. I check trying to make it look like I missed with AK again as I've played it that way before and pretty sure he knows that. He takes his time again and checks as well.

It seems really nitty and against the majority of opponents I would keep firing but I honestly don't think I'm ahead of this particular player's range enough of the time here to justify betting the turn and risking bloating the pot. I also think he might fold AQ to a second barrel so hopefully I can bet the river making it look like a steal and get my value there. A counter would be giving a free card to a flush draw.

River: 4

Not sure what to do here. Do I check and hope he bets his bare queens and missed flush draw (unlikely as it is) and just call? Also risk him checking back and losing value or making a big bet and having to make a tough decision. I'm leaning towards check calling here but I'd like to hear your thoughts on all streets.

I'm going to put the river action in spoilers without the results:

hand 1 fold.

hand 2, can't tell if that's 5 diamonds on board or 3 - if it's 3, snap call. if it's 5, fold.

tabbaker, you're getting 4:1, this is a call. I would have bet the turn also. You are concerned about blowing up the pot, but it looks like you know how to fold when you know you're beat.

Good point about the turn. I may be getting 4:1 but the min raise just screams strength.

+1 to betting turn... half pot would be great there to get value from AKcc, KK, AQ, KQ

River sucks but we need 20% to call and have 40% against 33, 88, QQ, KK.

If we bet the turn, do we check call that same river?

Sorry, had to think about this a while. If we bet the turn, I think it's a toss-up between bet/fold and check/call river. The key is how we maximize value versus AQ/KQ. If he is checking back AQ/KQ but calling a 1/3 psb on the river, then I'd go for bet/fold. If he is folding AQ/KQ but will valuebet those hands if we check to him, then its a check/call.

I think I would lean towards bet/fold 1/3 pot.

Alright thanks guys. I guess what really tripped me up is I've been trying to bet bigger and more often against the weaker players to get value and now a thinking player comes along and while not exactly representing a huge hand my read is he has something big.

Time for another hand.

V1: Huge fish, pretty much the only reason I am still at the table. Sitting on 600, loose passive. Will play for stacks with draws, top pair, tons of hands really.
V2: Same V2 as before.
Hero: 350 stack.

Pre: V2 limps, V1 raises to 10. He usually never raises so I'm thinking he has at least two face cards, a suited ace, or maybe a medium pair. Folds to Hero in CO with AA. 3bet to 35. V2 calls, V1 calls.

Flop: K 10 6 rainbow

V2 checks, V1 bets 17, Hero raises to 50. If it was just me and V1 I might just flat here and let him hang himself, although that would give him a chance to catch up for cheap but I believe I'm crushing him here. But V2 likes to draw so I want to iso and also protect my hand. V2 folds and V1 tank folds and shows a K.

Just draw this one up to a fish unfortunately making a good play?

His blocker bet range is hands that he intends to fold to raises, he probably just irrationally puts you on only AK or AA and wants to see where he's at. Some of my favorite HHs of all time involve just flatting these weak leads with value hands and blasting them off with air.

V is young white guy (fishy looking, not hoodie online poker type) who has been very loose and active. Seen him limp with J6s and raise flop with a naked flush draw. Seen him raise flop with TPWK. Seems to be just pushing buttons and not much of a thought process. $225 effective.

Everyone limps to me in SB, I make it 16. I have QQ with a heart. V calls from MP, heads up.

Flop: 9s 6h 2h (~$35)
I bet $35 he calls

Turn: 9s 6h 2h Th (~$105)
I think briefly, bet $50 and fold to shove ($125 more)

Thoughts on the turn bet and sizing?

Not sure about the turn bet.

So much gets there.
Hearts, T9, 87. Id also like to see a river to realize my possible equity with the Qh.

I think I check.

If we do bet, sizing is good.

Hi All,

New to the live discussions. What is a MAGWEP? Can't seem to find a definition of this term anywhere on the forums!

Thanks,

this is not the "low content" thread that spikeraw suggested, but i'm guessing "middle aged guy with ear piercing"

1/2 300 max buy in
V 30 something dude buys short, on his 2nd bullet in the 1/2 hour he has been at table. Generally bad loose sometime passive occasional aggressive.

Hero. Wining mostly abc this session.

2 limps
V(125) co raises 12
H(400ish) sb AQo calls
2 other calls
Flop (46) Q,5,3hh
Checks to V who shoves 122
My plan was to cr V all in when i check flop.

Does anyone find a fold here? I don't have a heart.

What is bad player thinking?

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