woah, a little too loose pre mate

Yah I don’t think we need to have any raises ott despite having a huge range advantage.

Jamming 88s+

just FYI- this is because you’re over folding

I’ve seen at least 5 triple barrels show down today on bros in a few hours of play

Reminder, LLSNL has a strict "no trolling strat threads" policy. I know that you guys know FW well enough to be able to tell that you're joking, but we get enough noobs ITF that might not be able to tell, so the policy is strict. Save the sarcastic fold pre advice for the chat thread.

I like the flop call, turn I raise. River easy jam having gotten here this way.

I'm raising turn to prevent the river from going check/check, which is a travesty having this much hand.

Good to see you. How have you been?

Why aren't you 3 betting the flop? Going off of the logic for why you'd x-r turn - wouldn't you also be concerned about turn going x-x, and not playing for stacks?

Would you comment on flop sizing, please? I'd have bet bigger thinking I'm going more polarized on this board texture and into two opponents. You and a couple other posters I like didn't comment on it so that means I prolly have an issue.

The board is dry and a lot of Ax would've 3 bet pf in a wannabe pro on the button vs HJ open scenario. You also block Qs heavily.

So basically villain's ranges are very weak on this board. So you're betting small for value and it also balances the rest of your range well. In this spot none of your range wants to be betting big here.

I don't like a turn C/R because it's very transparent. I would only do it vs a passive calling station. But to anyone with a brain c/c flop c/r turn is insanely strong. And with such a range advantage I think it's way less optimal than a c/c and going for c/r river. Especially the better the opponent is because they will tend to value bet thinner and bluff more.

I've been okay, going a little bit nuts tbh. NJ online games have been good for most of the last couple months, I started off 25-100NL, now i'm at 100-500NL when the games are good, so I figure I can play 2/5 or maybe even 5/T when live poker's back.

If turn goes check/check, they couldn't have played for stacks anyways. Only real risk of turn going check/check is if they have a straight draw, but on a turn checkback I'm going to be cautious on straightening rivers. If they check back and river bricks off you can go nearly PSB for value, they'll have Ax and have to call pretty much. I sometime mix in a 1.5x-2x PSB here on the river -- their hand is so transparent they're going to feel compelled to call.

I agree that the x/r is going to seem pretty strong, but we have #2 in a spot where it's really unlikely they have #1. They can have 888 or AQ or A8 or whatever, and if this person is a wannabe pro, they'll probably think those are too high up their range to fold. If they have random Ax, this is probably the last money you're getting from them regardless, so you might as well take over the lead and ensure the stacks go in.

Also, if you're not x/ring here with your value, are you x/ring JT ever for bluff?

Makes sense, thanks.

Should we x/r flop to deny equity to v here?

Second orbit at the table, don't know too much about v other than I've seen him open QJs utg, 44 from mp, almost auto cbet in the few hands i've seen him play. He has about 2k, covers h who is playing $850ish to start.

An interesting comment was made by a fish prior to this hand "He called me with Ace high" complaining to the table when H made a good call with Ace high. Not sure if this plays into this hand, but just thought I'd mention it.

H opens to 20 with JJ utg, v makes it 60, folds to h, call hu
F987r

H x, v bets 80. Is this a mandatory x/r spot to deny equity to AK/KQ/AQ type range?

2/3 game, 9 handed, 100 BB effective stacks

UTG raises to 20, three players call and we are in the BB.
Assume no reads and it's our first hand and we have:

56

A2

33


If we call, the pot is ~$100 with $280 behind, so SPR = 2.8

Which hands would you call/not call and why?

Need some help on understanding SPR and how it should affect our preflop hand selection

Fold
Fold
Call/maybe fold

Bad absolute hand strength, no reads on the players, bad absolute position, and unclear ability to get paid if we hit in all situations.
3rd is always a call for me in practice, but maybe should be a fold also for the reasons described

I would call them all. If utg is a reliable raiser/c-bettor, then you will have position on the flop for drawing hands, all of which these will probably be.

I would call all of them but suspect that we should fold the first one

What about squeezing the A2?

I'd fold 65s. Too poor RIO with all "good" hands we can make, imo. Plus we simply don't have the stacks/position postflop to figure out how we shape up.

I probably sigh call the other two, although I do wonder.

A2s is always going to win the "cooler" flush-over-flush case so it's got that going for it. I think it's very dicey calling any other suited here for that reason (with maybe the possible exception of KQs) but that's nitty me. Still, OOP (harder to get paid off and play), small SPR (won't be a lot behind to win if we have to go to a later to hit our hand) and will we flop good enough enough of the time? Obviously we're probably check/folding TP so we have little/none RIO on that, but there will be some RIO on straights / two pair.

33 is already getting 4:1 regarding setmining and so it should be fairly easy to get just one or so more bets in against the world to turn a profit (we don't require 3 postflop bets to go in order to be profitable setmining like we would HU). But at the same time RIO can't be ignored either on small pairs (honestly, I often wonder if they're playable at all but this is probably line-up dependent).

Gmy2worthlesscentsG

Vs. a 7X UTG open ... I might very well fold all of them, though A2s is likely call irl.

65s - lack of stack depth.
33 - not sure it's EV+ with the RIO impact.

Can someone answer these same 3 questions with 0 callers please.

AP OTF I think the rest seems good. I would probably check flop to start, but your weird 1/3rd lead probably worked out well in this spot.
Agree with Spyu that once V raises flop your best line becomes x/c until river which is an obvious CRAI. If he managed to get there, oh well.

UTG raises to $20, all fold to us in BB $280 effective
65s: fold
A2s: fold
33: you could make a case for calling if you know V well enough that you know s/he would stack off with non nutted hands. as described as a complete unknown, fold

With 0 callers I think they all become trivial folds (but that's me). OOP and HU and no initiative and no dead money and much less IO with speculative hands is highly unlikely to be profitable unless your edge on your lone opponent is massive+++.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Definitely folding A2s/33, might call 65s at some frequency.

I'd make a small 3b on the flop. Semi-bluffs like JTs will call, and looking to get 3 streets of value.

If you have a read on Wannabe, i.e. that he will continue betting, I guess call down is ok. Hate doing that OOP, so maybe a river lead?

This shallow, folding 56 - won't realize equity enough given pot size and I assume a sizeable cbet. If we flop well with A2 or 33 we know what to do on those flops. Suited connectors are WAAAAY overrated, especially live. You can be dominated by other players' calling ranges so easily, e.g., 55, 66, ATcc, 98cc - all pretty normal calling hands.

2/5 with UTG straddle on, one loose V limps MP1, hero BTN $60 JJ, SB hesitates and calls, limper calls. Both otherwise unknown, recreational types. $800 eff.

Flop ($190): T-7-5r. Checks to me, $85, call, call.

Turn ($450): 7. Checks through.

River: 8. No flush. SB leads $125, limper tank calls. Hero? I'm really interested in raise versus call. Never folding.

Thanks,
DT