Yeah, calling, not loving my situation, but I think you have enough odds to call for just the straight draw. The other thing is if they both have two pair+ here that's a boon for you because not only is your Qd live but they're blocking each other's redraw outs.

Is this an acceptable spot to just flat call a large size pre?

1/2, $225 effective, 9 handed. Villain is a small winning LAG, but also a pretty big station, so we can expect villain to call a 3 bet extremely frequently, and to shove a range of 99+, AQ+.

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Player that is new to the room and has been complaining all session about raise sizings being way too large and people playing way too aggressively ironically straddles $5 UTG. Action is folded to villain in CO who raises to $20, and it's folded to hero in BB with A Q. Is it reasonable to just flat here?

I think I'd rather just 3!. We're so shallow due to the straddle -- only 45bbs basically. You can make it $75 and ship every flop and profit I'd think against a LAG open range in LP, and it negates being OOP as well.

Yeah, I think flatting here is a little MUBSy because he's a station and will probably hero call a lot of flops. This has gotta be pretty close to the bottom of our 3 bet range here though. We should probably have no flatting range here, right?

It's just way too early to be getting out-of-line, imo. Yeah, you'll take down a lotta small pots preflop, or iso this guy a decent amount of the time and print a little bit of money there. But will those cases be made up for the times someone else at the table (who'll mostly be in position) wakes up with enough to continue? Will those rarer big losses cover your more common small wins?

The biggest argument for getting out-of-line here is probably for meta-game purposes, but it's debatable if that's enough of a reason. If stacks are consistently deep and you need to setup an aggrotard image to get in huge money preflop with AA/KK, maybe.

ETA: The other thing to keep in mind is that your 3bet sizing is going to have to be huge due to facing the lol minraise. Cuz if you just do a 3x or something stupid to like $24, that's like a semi-normalish initial raise (right?), so it'll have little FE affect. So you're going to have to start going like a more normalish 3bet size of like $45+ or something, which is a pretty damn big risk when there's just $12 in the pot.

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What did you open to preflop? If it's a decent sizing (and not a ******o weak looking ~minraise) then I think this is likely a fold.

You're not getting out-of-line, you raised normal in EP, there's 2 calls and instead of just happily getting a good price in the blinds and calling he's decided to make a big pot OOP with decent stacks. Good luck folding anything he's doing this with, and good luck running into spazz in this case, imo.

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I play mullet poker: all business up front, but party in the back.

On the Button, so long as there is a mark or two in the hand, I'm quite happily seeing a flop with pretty much any offsuit two gapper. So hands like T8s, 86o and 76o are no-brainer overlimps for me on the Button. I don't like his 93s/83s due to RIO on most of the strong hands he'll make (I'm actually 50/50 on whether I overlimp Kxs but Qxs is a fold for me due to RIO).

But if you played ATC on your Button to an overlimp you probably wouldn't be making too much of a mistake (so long as you don't suck postflop, so make sure you correctly evaluate yourself against your competition; i.e. there are a lotta posts in this forum where OPs would be far better off folding anything speculative on the Button if they're going to **** it up terribly postflop).

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If it's unlikely anyone will raise, I might just prefer to see a flop here. There's still 4 people to react preflop (half the table) so a decent chance someone wakes up with something that has us crushed.

Too lazy to stove, but I'm guessing we have to sigh call here. Although it might be close due to redraws and tainted outs.

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If you believe the straddle is very rarely going to 3! I think you can probably call the pairs from like 22-TT and try to set mine, but it's a bit close.

I don't think we're getting right IO, especially OOP vs an aggressive opponent

If you’re the most aggro at the table and he’s never continuing vs your 3 bet with a hand that’s worse than AK then he’s not a winning reg

AK isn’t a mediocre hand...wtf?

I would go a little larger. Prob 155-160 and am getting it in all day vs the 5

Ya I was just pissed off I got stacked with AK and there was nothing I could do about it. May as well ignore that comment.

When I said aggro I meant I was at the table when half the morning retirement crew were still playing and no one would commit with AK in this spot except for me. I wasnt talking about VPIP. The V was the only other "younger" guy there.

5/10 1k effective. I’m new to table but I’m reasonably confident V is a pro.

V opens +2 $35, hero defends BB with AsQx.

Pot:$70

Flop: 9s4h2s.

X, V $30, H calls.

Turn 9d.

With our flop calling range being more 9x dense than his betting range, and with AsQx being a marginal x/c or x/f turn, is this a good spot to mix in some leads?

Do you expect him to have a wide raising range against this lead with air? Would you expect 9x to raise or flat vs this lead?

why no 3bet pre?

what's the benefit of leading? I don't get it. He's calling with basically every hand that beats you and folding some hands that may barrel turn that you're ahead of.

I would expect V's turn barrel to be polarised here..he's likely to barrel over cards and big overpairs and sets/boats and check back his medium pair type hands.

So I'd check planning to call a turn bet and think there's more value here than in leading

but I do think a 3bet pre should have happened

Is this reckless? 1/2, $200 effective with straddler and HJ. Hero has a pretty nitty image.

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Fish straddles $10 UTG, folded to hyper aggro HJ who raises to $40, hero looks down at K Q and shoves all in. I'm not sure what I was supposed to do in this spot.

Probably should just fold. We should never flat here though, and stack sizes are awkward, so it's either ship it or fold.

Are we next to act? I think the big issue is that there's four people to your left who haven't spoken yet -- if we were against just HJ, I'd want to shove, but with the four hands to your left I'm less inclined to. Still, KQs has good removal and not the worst equity when called (it's suited, it's connected-ish, and it's high enough that TT/JJ are flipping instead of dominating us).

Shove probably not terrible, but I'd probably just fold and wait for a little bit more hand with so many people left to act. If you were in the BB instead I'd probably shove this and be happy about it.

1/3 280 effective

UTG is younger but aggro I have seen him get out of line loose when drinking. I just got to table an orbit ago. I opened back to back hands and folded to a limp reraise shove to 157 in a button straddled pot I opened to 50.
He has headphones in is being quiet and hasn't played a hand yet.

UTG opens 12 I 40 UTG +2 with KK he 4 bets to 113. The game I play in is 300 max bet 4 bets per street so this is a cap I call

flop Qc Jc 6s x x

Turn 5d (226) He shoves for 167 I call

standard?

Wouldn't he just sigh shove the flop for this remaining amount with AK (overs + gutshot) instead of waiting for the turn?

It's a pretty gross spot even preflop (unless we're being super aggro with our 3bets, because UTG just bet/4bet an UTG+2 3bet, which is *super* strong) and postflop a couple of the hands that could be getting slightly out-of-line (QQ/JJ) just got there.

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I didn’t think AQo was a standard 3 bet BB v +2 although I think either is fine.

If we lead turn and bet river I think V folds a lot of his range. If we get called on turn by all one pair hands and fold out the bulk of pocket pairs below TT and some A2/A4 on river I think we have a profitable lead.

Pio likes the lead as long as we aren’t getting raised a ton on the turn which I don’t think we are but Im curious what others think.

it's about as bad a flop as we could ever have, short of flops with an A on them.

his check flop, shove turn line is also unpleasant because he could conceivably both check back AA thinking you had hit a set on the flop and check back a set, hoping you would bet.

however...we have an overpair and we need to call 167 to win an additional 393 and people do stupid things in low stakes poker so I don't think we can do anything other than sigh call

even if his range to play this hand this way is JJ+ and AK, there are 6 combos of AA, 3 each of JJ and QQ and 8 remaining of AK, so we're losing to 12 and winning vs 8 (plus chopping with the remaining KK). We're easily getting odds vs this range and we also need to add in 5% spaz minimum because it's lol live poker

Line check, please. 1/2, 9 handed, $225 effective. Hero has a TAG image.

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LAG-ish station limps UTG, loose passive station limps UTG +1, unknown limps UTG +2, hero raises A K OTB, TAG-ish player in SB calls and all of the limpers call.

Flop ($102): J 5 2. SB leads for $25, UTG calls, hero calls.

Turn ($177): Q. SB checks, UTG checks, and hero shoves for $180.

Thoughts on all streets are appreciated.

What is the standard rake in 1/2 or 2/2 games.
We only have 2/2 in Belgium as far as I know.

The rake in the closest two casino's is:
5-10% depending on pot size capped at €8 + €4 / hour in one casino
flat 10% in the other capped at €10

Is this beatable? By how about how much?