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09-17-2018 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ibelieveyouoweme$80k
Hero is MAWG. Little too aggressive at times. Overconfident.

V is about our age. Recently moved to our table with a couple of other players, one of whom mentioned that V is in game for about $1,000.

V likes to bet pretty much pot-sized in every street.

In this hand, V is in BB and H is OTB. Effective stacks are $295.

$1/$2 NLTHE

Active Drunk in MP raises to $12. One caller and H calls with KQ off OTB. I think a 3-bet is better here. But drunk likes to bluff and stab at pots. Both blinds flat.

Flop K103 rainbow.

V donks for $60 from BB and it folds to me.

You?
I might consider 3betting preflop as a bluff, if there were no callers between me and the opener, and if the opener was someone I thought could fold either now or on the flop to a c-bet; but otherwise this hand is going into the muck.

As played, call and evaluate on the turn.

ETA: Don't think of leading out in a multiway pot as "donking." Because a sensible player with the betting initiative has to play a lot closer to fit-or-fold in multiway spots, there is more likelihood the action will check through, and so an OOP player who hits a hand has a strong motivation to lead out.
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09-18-2018 , 03:29 AM
Drunken $2/5 NL
Doing a $25 "Bomb Pot" every dealer change.
(Everyone puts in $25, and you go to the flop. Playing normal from there on)

Hero K10 - Has $1,000

Flop
10Q4 ($250)

Random guy leads for $50, Reg type woman makes it $200. Both are covering

Are we just shipping? Or should carni-games like these be played super nitty, and just assume someone has a set and top 2

Possible hands he, and she have...
10,4
10,10
QQ
44
Q,10
Q,4
J9
Smaller flush draws
AA
KK
AQ

There's $500 in the pot
We're 32% vs a set, and basically flipping vs almost all other hands... Even top 2

We're blocking some 10x combos
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09-18-2018 , 05:33 AM
that’s like the polar opposite of a low stress hand to post, should get its own thread
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09-18-2018 , 10:22 AM
Strange that no AX hands are possible for either villain.
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09-18-2018 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
Strange that no AX hands are possible for either villain.
You're right, AXss is in her range...
I mean everything is, that's the problem with bomb pots.

I ended up shoving.
I figured that it's basically the same as making it $500-$600 and gives me more fold equity against AQ and maybe even 10,4.
I hate flatting, I hate folding

She had Q10
I did not get there
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09-18-2018 , 05:59 PM
Study this one hard and you're on your way to becoming the bomb pot expert.

My guess is that call is best. We win most of the time a K, T, or spade hits, and almost never if we don't. So why try to clear the field? Most Qx never folding. idk.

Enjoy your bomb pot variance!
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09-21-2018 , 12:49 AM
1/3. V is older white gentleman. Not crazy tight. Earlier hand in straddle I bet top pair otf (JT) and c/c his bet with middle pair (A9) ott and was good. Hero is eff with $140.

Hero raises $15 UTG+1 with AdKs. V calls. All rest fold. Pot $27.

Flop: 9c-8s-4d. Hero checks, V bets $15. Hero calls. Pot $57.

Turn: 5x. Hero checks, V bets $15. Hero calls. Pot $87.

River: 9d. Hero checks, V bets $15. Hero? Do I bluff catch here for such a good price or just let it go? Should I have folded earlier?

Thanks,
DT

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 09-21-2018 at 01:01 AM.
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09-21-2018 , 09:37 AM
Your prehistory is too vague to be much help. If your read is he can often bet flop with air, AP is fine. Can also x/f this flop.
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09-21-2018 , 09:49 AM
Fold turn. Fold river.
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09-21-2018 , 10:35 AM
If I call flop, I raise turn. But then I pretty much always raise "same bets" OTT.

Never calling to bluff catch here. I'd much rather re-bluff, as he can be "bluffing" with a better hand often.
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09-21-2018 , 06:32 PM
2/5/10, 850 effective. Cut off bets 30. Fat middle aged guy in business suit 3 bets button to 110. Folds to me in straddle with QQ. Fat guy has been snug so far but it’s only been 20 hands.

I 4 bet to 325. Fat guy huffs and puffs and makes a huge deal of it ‘one of us is going home’ etc and then flats.

Flop is A Q 10r.

Do you bet or check? If bet how much? Pot is 700 and we have 500ish.

I check. Turn is a 9. Bet or check if bet, how much?
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09-21-2018 , 06:44 PM
checking is trying to get a river call from KK only, bet turn because there’s way more AJ/JJ/99/other stuff he checked now. fwiw i think you have the nuts because he wouldn’t speech with KJ or check flop with AA, sorry if i’m wrong
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09-21-2018 , 06:54 PM
Not worried about being behind. If he has AA then gg him. This is about playing for max value.

I actually think betting flop is better than betting turn - checking flop is super nutted.
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09-22-2018 , 04:42 AM
1/3. Hero covers and raises AKo to $15 in MP. Fish 1 calls in CO, and V/older fish (eff. $200) calls in SB. Pot $38. Flop: A-9-6dd. Older fish donks $15. Hero raises $45. Fish 1 folds, V calls. Pot $98. Turn: Jx. Fish donks $50 with $90 behind. Hero?

Thanks,
DT
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09-22-2018 , 07:33 AM
Build an aquarium.
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09-22-2018 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
2/5/10, 850 effective. Cut off bets 30. Fat middle aged guy in business suit 3 bets button to 110. Folds to me in straddle with QQ. Fat guy has been snug so far but it’s only been 20 hands.

I 4 bet to 325. Fat guy huffs and puffs and makes a huge deal of it ‘one of us is going home’ etc and then flats.

Flop is A Q 10r.

Do you bet or check? If bet how much? Pot is 700 and we have 500ish.

I check. Turn is a 9. Bet or check if bet, how much?
You have a flopped set, the initiative, and less than a pot-sized bet remaining in a four-bet pot. Shove and find out who wins.
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09-23-2018 , 07:29 PM
1/3. V is table big stack playing TAG. Hero should have terrible image as the last hand he was involved in against V hero raised A8hh MP with four callers, V 3! SB $85, hero jammed $120, V called with AQo and AQ holds.

Straddle on and hero has AKo in MP (one K exposed pre) and makes it $31 with two limpers. Two callers and V in BB 3! $120. Hero has $200 behind. Hero?

Thanks,
DT
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09-23-2018 , 07:35 PM
With a straddle (which I’m assuming is 6) you have less than 40 B.B. effective. Not folding AK for that
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09-23-2018 , 07:40 PM
Dear Mr. DombosTrunk,

Have you ever thought about getting a job as a hand history Vlogger at next year's WSOP? I think you would do very well at that.
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09-24-2018 , 12:05 PM
Borgata 1/2, very late Saturday night.

V is an OK player, tends to play her premiums aggressively. Not long before this hand she had AA two hands in a row. Won the first without incident, lost everything (~500) on the second to the maniac on my right (flushed turn, she bet, he raised, she called AI with the A of suit).

She rebought for $300 and has a little more now. I cover the table with ~$1200.

I open to $15 in EP with AK. Folds around to V, she makes it $100.

I ... ?
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09-24-2018 , 12:11 PM
Against a lady who seems to feel like she has to protect her aces now, I let it go.
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09-24-2018 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
1/3. V is table big stack playing TAG. Hero should have terrible image as the last hand he was involved in against V hero raised A8hh MP with four callers, V 3! SB $85, hero jammed $120, V called with AQo and AQ holds.

Straddle on and hero has AKo in MP (one K exposed pre) and makes it $31 with two limpers. Two callers and V in BB 3! $120. Hero has $200 behind. Hero?

Thanks,
DT
Against a V who can 3! AQo, this is an easy jam. Weve got plenty of equity coupled with what's in the pot already.
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09-24-2018 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
1/3. V is older white gentleman. Not crazy tight. Earlier hand in straddle I bet top pair otf (JT) and c/c his bet with middle pair (A9) ott and was good. Hero is eff with $140.

Hero raises $15 UTG+1 with AdKs. V calls. All rest fold. Pot $27.

Flop: 9c-8s-4d. Hero checks, V bets $15. Hero calls. Pot $57.

Turn: 5x. Hero checks, V bets $15. Hero calls. Pot $87.

River: 9d. Hero checks, V bets $15. Hero? Do I bluff catch here for such a good price or just let it go? Should I have folded earlier?

Thanks,
DT
I like limp/reraising preflop, but with this short of stack raising is also fine.

I'd mostly lean to a one-and-done cbet of no more than 1/2 PSB on the flop. If I'm checking, I think it's mostly just to fold against this guy (he's not betting air is he?).

On the turn, yeah we're getting good pot odds, but who cares. He's likely ahead of us and we have little IO (and poor RIO if reverse dominated). I fold.

Same sorta reasoning on the river. Very few people bluff busted draws with no showdown value for lol 1/6 of the pot, they're simply betting for value.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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09-24-2018 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
1/3. Hero covers and raises AKo to $15 in MP. Fish 1 calls in CO, and V/older fish (eff. $200) calls in SB. Pot $38. Flop: A-9-6dd. Older fish donks $15. Hero raises $45. Fish 1 folds, V calls. Pot $98. Turn: Jx. Fish donks $50 with $90 behind. Hero?

Thanks,
DT
With $200 effective I'd raise slightly more preflop to more comfortably stack off postflop with TP but whatever.

SPR is ~5 so I'm stacking off on this drawy board. I usually like giving poor 2:1 odds for draws on the flop as no one ever folds a draw on the flop, so I'd normally raise to like $85, which will setup a trivial shove on the turn. Could also consider just shoving the flop this short. I don't like our raise size cuz now it leaves us with an awkward 1.4 PSB left where we should be committed by the turn on a drawy board.

Not in love facing this kinda of strength on the turn (we've raised preflop and flop and yet still get donked into, this is scary). No draws completed (other than his three outer with AJ) so I still shove but I'm not nearly as in love with it had we raised bigger on the flop.

GcommitASAPwhencommitted,imoG
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09-24-2018 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
1/3. V is table big stack playing TAG. Hero should have terrible image as the last hand he was involved in against V hero raised A8hh MP with four callers, V 3! SB $85, hero jammed $120, V called with AQo and AQ holds.

Straddle on and hero has AKo in MP (one K exposed pre) and makes it $31 with two limpers. Two callers and V in BB 3! $120. Hero has $200 behind. Hero?

Thanks,
DT
At this actiony table I might still limp/reraise from MP but since we're relatively short I don't hate just raising either.

With our semi-wild image, relatively short stacks, and pretty decent dead money, I'm insta-shipping and feeling pretty awesome about it (ETA: I forgot about the exposed K, but still feeling pretty decent).

GcluelessNLnoobG
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