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5 limpers, SB completes, hero knuckles BB with 8d6d.

Flop is KdJdKh, checks to BTN who bets $7, SB calls, Hero calls, weak tight older villain calls.

Turn is the 4d and Hero, with an aggressive but not crazy image, bets $25 into $40, villain min raises to $50 with $65 behind. Folds to hero.

Are you folding or calling, getting like 4.6 to 1, and planning to x/f all rivers?

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5 limpers, SB completes, hero knuckles BB with 8d6d.

Flop is KdJdKh, checks to BTN who bets $7, SB calls, Hero calls, weak tight older villain calls.

Turn is the 4d and Hero, with an aggressive but not crazy image, bets $25 into $40, villain min raises to $50 with $65 behind. Folds to hero.

Are you folding or calling, getting like 4.6 to 1, and planning to x/f all rivers?[/QUOTE]

You can't call with the plan to check/fold all rivers. That's awful.

So then it's a fold? My thinking on calling and x/f river was that he would check behind Kx and non nut flushes OTR if we flat the turn.

AA hand: I'd bet bigger otf since we're not bet/folding with such a low spr. As played, yeah shove over the raise and get value from Kx and QJ.

AK hand: nh

I personally probably wouldn't fold ... but it's either a fold or just get it in.

Even with the king exposed I still think we have enough equity to call here.

2/5 - effective stacks $500

2 limpers to hero who raises to $30 in MP with JJ. Both limpers call.

Flop ($89) A72
Checks through

Turn ($89) A
V bets $25, fold, Hero calls

River ($139) 6
V checks, Hero?

Villain is a regular. White, 40's, wealthy business owner. Plays something like 45/15. He seems like he has a decent AF. He takes stabs at uncontested multiway pots a lot, and haven't seem him do anything too out of line. He views hero as a nit, but in the last half hour he saw me iso with 46s OTB which I'm sure he didn't think was in my range. So now he may think I'm FOS, IDK. Comments on all streets appreciated.

Bet/fold $50. You may value cut yourself a fair amount but not often enough with that sizing

Raise the turn to $80.

Bet/fold as big as you think he'd call OTR.

Ugh. Played his hand badly.

Get 55 ... limp in EP. Flop 673. I lead for $10 into two players. One caller.

Turn is a 5. I bet $20. He makes it $50. I call $30 with about another $120 behind.

River 8. I check. He bets big. I fold angrily. Probably should fold the turn or 3-bet him.

Sets suck (not really, just lately).

As long as u open ship when the river pairs, I think the hand looks good

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Does previous 15 minutes affect this decision?

1/3 NL, 10 handed

Hero (covers) has just tabled changed to the lone other 1/3 table. I don't do anything in my first 15 minutes of note. I've got a big stack and when questioned about it stated that I've been at the table for about 10 hours. White early 40's male with beard, maybe look nittyiesh, I don't know.

Villain ($320) is 50s asian male. I don't believe we've ever played together. He doesn't seem to be doing any stupid, but two hands may have him rattled in the 15 minutes I've been at the table. Hand 1, he gets AKs and gets in $150+ preflop against an opponent with JJ + lottsa dead money (standard, imo), flops a K, turns the nut flush draw, and then sees opponent bink the one outer on the river. Hand 2, he gets QQ and gets in $150+ preflop against another opponent with JJ + dead money (again, standard, imo), only for the opponent to bink the 2 outer on the river. So he's lost half his stack recently with style on the river. He strikes me as having played this game before (probably a reg at another casino?).

Girl ($600) is only important in the hand in the fact that she's still in it and has to be part of the villain's thought process.

Preflop (10 players): Hero is SB with 9 9
Villain (UTG) raises to $6, Girl calls, Hero calls, BB folds

[WTF. $6 is a minraise and typically table would go off eleventeen ways, not sure how we got 3handed. Not sure if this is a juicer or a small raise with a monster trying to induce a 3bet. Yes, I could have 3bet, but I'm 200bbs deep OOP against girl who seems a little fishy and I'm fine setmining against her (as well as villain) for mucho $$$ (it would be a shame to take this down preflop, imo).]

Flop (3 players, ~$18): 9 8 5
Hero donks $20, Villain calls $20, Girl calls $20

[Pretty standard, imo.]

Turn (3 players, ~$78): 6
Hero checks, Villain bets $200 into $80 (leaving about $100 behind), Girl folds, Hero...

WTF?

Do previous 15 minutes factor in at all here?

Is he tilt bluffing? Tilt committing with a weak hand like an overpair? Tilt protecting a worse hand? Tilt protecting a better hand? Or even tilting at all?

He's still got the girl to react behind him when he commits, and there's an obvious 4-to-a-straight on board (albeit it would have had to be a gutshot that hit), but flop donker did just show weakness. But would a turned gutshot try to scare away opponents with this huge overbet?

$26 invested, meh, fold?

I's got top set, meh, shove (since a call would be fairly pointless)?

I hate folding sets, but like you said, $26 invested and a $200 bet? Yeah, he's tilting, but he has it this time.

I'd have probably 3-bet him if he was clearly tilting.

Here's an AK hand from Monday night:

Villain is about 50. Atlantic City regular from what I've seen. He hasn't shown down much that isn't strong. As I was sitting down at the table, he doubled up a guy when AC reg claimed set of 7s on a 874 board with two spades. Guy had 56 of spades. Though AC regular has recounted the story about a dozen times, he's always recounted it incorrectly in that he said the guy sucked out on him with 67. Anyhow, I'd say he was above average. He raised in LP with good hands, but didn't bother to C-bet heads-up if he missed.

Villain 2 is about 50. Playing a lot of hands. Saw him limp KK and flop K44.

The table is full of people limping huge hands, hoping to hit the high hand or bad beat.

Villain 1 is UTG. V2 is UTG+1. I am in MP, two off the button.

V1 raises to $12. First time I saw him raise to $12 UTG. UTG+1 calls. Fold, fold. I 3-bet to $51.

In retrospect, with a stack size of $204, I thought this was too big - and it surprised V1 that it was so big. A reg friend thought it was too big as well.

Anyhow, folds back to UTG and he makes it $124. UTG+1 folds. I tank then fold.

Button says he folded AK. After some time UTG says he had AK suited.

When I put in 1/4 of my stack, I was expecting him to shove or fold, not make the smaller 4-bet.

I honestly don't believe he had AK ... I think he had AA here and a slimmer chance he had KK, even though my hand and button's say that is difficult to believe.

Thoughts?

I normally have no problem getting it in for 100 BBs with AK. I think at this table, though, with the way the table was playing, it would have been a mistake. But a bigger mistake than 3-betting to $51? IDK.

2 hands, both at same game in same session

Hand 1

Hero $160 on BTN
MP with $75 raise to $7 (standard raise at this game, says very little about players holdings)
2 callers
Hero calls with Q2
SB calls
BB folds

5 ways to flop

Flop ($37): 4Q5
SB checks
MP raiser moves all in for $68
folds to Hero
Hero shoves for $153

Standard?

Hand 2

Hero LP with $200
$5 Straddle on button
3 callers before a $20 raise from MP player (fwiw good/winning online player, does well at this live cash game)
Hero looks down at AA
Hero raises to $55
folds to MP player who calls

Flop ($130): Q37
MP checks
Hero moves all in for $145'

Standard?

Hand 2 standard
Hand 1 lolwtfbbqpreflop

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You can't make money calling Q2s when villain only has 38 BB. Not possible. If you both had $400, then MAYBE you could flat on the button with this hand. Maybe.

1-2
350 eff

Hero in SB, only showed a couple hands both strong

Villain seems solid, mp

Few limpers, villain pops it to 17

I'm in the SB with AKo

What is the best line to take here, 3bet/fold? If so how much

I'd 3bet/fold $50. If we just flat then we'll be stuck playing multiway oop.

2/5 - KK - $310 eff

Both villains are ~35/12. They both play decent ABC postflop.

Hero ($310)(TAG/nit with losing image) opens utg+2 to $20 with KK
SB ($1000) calls
BB ($800) calls

Both have very wide ranges here as they like to defend their blinds.

Flop ($56) 9TJ

SB checks, BB bets $70, Hero?

This is the first time I've seen the BB bet > pot.

decent ABC postflop?
can't see anybody decent donk-betting AJ on this board
maaybe JQ etc, but it's questionable
looks more like 2pair+
btw, what's a TAG/nit?

5/5
hero - $3500
running hot, winning image (i think), LAG

V - no reads, looks weak, $400

V limps UTG+1
5 more limps
Hero raises to $40 from BB with JJ
V calls quickly
1 or 2 more calls (doesn't really matter, all that matters is post-flop decision)

Flop T22r
Hero bets $75
V raises to $200 with $200 behind

Shove or fold?

By TAG/nit I just meant that my perceived image is somewhere in between a tag and a nit.

By decent ABC postflop I meant that I had not seen him do anything out of the ordinary or make any bad postflop mistakes after about 2 or 3 hours of play.

His preflop range does contain all combos of Q9-QJ and 89-8J, but I wasn't sure how often he takes this line with those hands.

Since he called quickly we can remove QQ+ and most 2x hands from his range. TT flats OTF often. If you're lag he may think he's ahead of your range with AT, KT, QT...shove

Cleveland 'Shoe 1-2, youngish guy sitting on his last $50 raises to ten. Read is that he's straightforward TAG. I'm on button w TT. As I'm thinking, blinds both fold out of turn.

Our play?

Probably makes a little bit of a difference where Villain has opened from (i.e. UTG vs CO), but in the end this is for 25bbs. We're crushing most hands, the better side of a flip with some, and only crushed by 4. He's never folding to a shove having stuck in 1/5th of his stack, and shortstackers are notorious for getting in their stack light and gambooling it up. Simple shove for me.

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