Nonstandard Spot with TT on the River
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Villain - Asian guy in his 20's. Not much reads on him, but he hasn't gotten out of line in a few hours.
Eff. Stacks - 500
Villain makes it 20 on the button over an MP limper. I'm in the BB with TT and flat. Limper calls. 3 way to the flop.
Pot 60
Flop Q97r
I check. Check, Check.
Turn 2h
I bet 35, fold, Villain calls.
Pot 130
River 2c
I bet 60. He thinks a little and makes it 155.
I doubted in the moment that he was bluffing. But he's representing very thin. Slow played QQ or 99 or even 77? A2ss or A2dd?
Pot odds were a bit tempting, 345/95 = 3.63 to 1, only need to be good 21.56% of the time to break even.
Do you look up Villain or let this one go?
I would have 3-bet the TT preflop, after which the hand would have played out very differently.
Nonetheless, the river raise from an presumed ABC/weak-tight player means that you are smoked. This is an easy fold.
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 10,857
I think once he calls the Turn bet I go into c/c mode on River, especially after the board pairs. You have a showdown hand, not a betting hand at this point in time IMO. If you do bet the River, you probably need to go bigger so that if you do get raised into it's a more 'serious' situation. A 50% value bet is fine, but the 2 really shouldn't change anything so a larger bet size is the way to go IMO.
Even if he gives you credit for Qx/9x/TT/JJ when you bet out on the Turn, he is still raising into you .. did you 'maybe' pick up a flush draw on Turn?
C/c the River when OOP against non-out-of-line opponents ... fold AP. GL
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 345
As played, fold.
I don't like your river bet much at all though against the described opponent. He would either need to have a lot of unsuited 9x and 7x hands in his button open range, and/or play ultra sticky with his pocket pairs for a thin value bet to be good here. Check/decide IMO.
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 7,098
Im never betting this river. There is so little in his range that can call a bet. That said i dont see this being a bluff very often. Since there are no real draws out there, i dont see him calling the turn with air just to bluff the river. If he had something like JT i would have expected a flop bet. If he bluffed, good game him, but i dont expect AK to take this line.
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Well played, OTR bet fold. NH.
Join Date: Jul 2012
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3bet pre is preferred.
As played I like the river bet. We should rarely be behind here, and can get looked up by 88 or the like. Fold now. This is very rarely a bluff.
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Very easy fold, and most likely QQQ.
I do not like the river bet sizing. YOu represent a Qx very well.
What should he chk back flop and pay this HP bet off with? I would bet whatever he calls with a 9x when he thinks we most likely have a Qx hand. (Prob the same size as turn bet or poss $10 more)
Join Date: Sep 2011
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3bet pre. Then double barrel flop and turn (if this board were to come out), then c/f river. In this instance you played correctly (post flop) and I hope you folded river. He has JT/8T a lot less because of your TT, and there's no flush draw possible. He would not raise Qx, 9x or even KK/AA (if he decided to butcher those two hands by checking back flop) on the river. Very easy fold.
Join Date: Feb 2013
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Pre is fine. Overall, wp. River is a b/f.
Join Date: Jan 2012
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well played as long as you folded river....agree with bet/folding river though
Join Date: Jan 2007
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3bet pre would be a bluff and I would rather not bluff with a hand as good as TT.
I'm not entirely eliminating AA/KK from villain on river, either.
