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Originally Posted by quesuerte
IMO, the discussion is still overly focused on the fact that stacks are deep. Of course this is something we should consider in all decision making but I think it is dangerous to overweight it. The simple fact is that there is still going to be an extremely large number of pots under 200BB and losing sight of extracting max value for fear of being exploitable is bad.
At an extreme example, say we only three bet AA. If our opponent is simply going to rep a hand that beats us on all boards, call down because we won't be beating us >20%ish of the time. If our opponent never puts more money in less than two pair then c/f all streets. In both cases the pre flop three bet is winning us money.. In a more realistic situation where the opponent does something in between, play post flop poker in a bigger pot with a huge equity advantage.
There was a thread, which became a challenge in the HUNL forum where they played deep with one guy always having aces and both players being aware of this fact. It ended up being pretty close.
In real life, even if we only ever three bet aces (which we won't) it would take our opponent a long time to be sure of that.
I'm really confident that in most LLSNL games that are deep, the optimal line for a lot of hands is similar to 100BB. For example I'd be 3 betting AKo and b/f three streets when I hit. Of course there are preflop strategy adjustments, but I feel people get things out of proportion.
The real reason for not wanting to be three bet is that we'll make the pot big then get outplayed. Focus on not getting out played, rather than keeping the pot small with a huge equity edge.
Good post with points well taken.