The game is 1/2 NLHE. The time is just after the stoppage of booze sales and the end of a promotion which thinned the room significantly. We are 8 handed.

Hero- (285) MP. MABG wearing a George W. Bush campaign shirt and Operation Dessert Storm hat for 9/11. Card dead for the past month, this session included. Probably a pretty tight image with unknowns but a few regs know me to be a wildcard who changes styles depending on conditions (one told me as much on a smoke break haha.)

V1 (175) UTG+1 60s brown man of some sort, I think he was Aluetian or some other aboriginal American. Played 3 orbits and has ran 80 bucks to 300 back down to current stack. Couldn't fold aces in one hand. Limp raised Kings in another. Some level of competence but passive on turn and river but does't seem to like to fold the flop. No concept of SPR. Live money.

V2 Button (covers significantly) 30s white dude conservatively dressed. Had been playing since hero got to table. After this hand and later in the evening my perception of him changed but at this moment I thought he was a pretty competent player. He talked about poker concepts at the table with other players. Got max value against a couple rec players in big pots, folded hands face up that were probably winners. Had not displayed a propensity to take over pots on the button.

Hero dealt black 10-9.

Limped 6-way to the flop $11 after rake

Flop 8-7-5 rainbow

Blinds cheque. V1 bets $6, Hero calls, C/o folds, V2 raises to $15. Folds to V1 who raises to $45.

Hero thinks for 20 seconds and folds. Reasoning. Vs could have sets or flopped str8s so my overs are probably not giving me much added equity. Overpairs don't make much sense other than 9s or 10s and I have those. Call seemed suspect given there was a re-raiser to act behind and the stacks were not very deep. If we all have 500 I'm definitely calling here. Jam crossed my mind but seemed like a total spew given the probably strengths of their hands and my passiveness displayed so far I think there is 0 fold equity.

The hand played out and I wouldn't have hit so I felt a lot better about fold from that perspetive. However, after playing around on a poker odds app, I think I had a lot of equity in the hand and I'm not sure I made the right play in terms of building my Sklansky Bucks BR.

Any thoughts on this sitch is appreciated. I'll happily post V's hands whenever anyone axes for them as Vs got it in OTT.

Yeah, fold is correct here.

Even if they were both all in in front of you and you were closing the action it's still a fold, unless somehow your over cards are actually legitimate outs, which they should probably never be against two all ins here.

With just straight outs and the possibility that one of your 6's is in one of their hands, it's a sure fold even if they were both all in in front of you.

Also, why use Sklansky bucks when you can use G-bucks?

I think the concepts merge in this hand because the ranges are so narrow (in my opinion.) Also i think Galfond is a tool based on his PLO videos. He ripped the concept off in my opinion so I don't use the term.

Good point about one of those 6s not being live. Had not assumed that in my decison at the table though put one of them on the str8 so obviously it's dead.

No way im chasing at this point. I dont chase often without a good reason to believe Ill get good odds on the turn. Id rather chase a straight than a flush, cuz 1/2 players fear the flush board, miss the straight, so IOs are good. Here, you arent getting DO, unlikely to get good odds on the turn, and 4 of your outs put a 4 card straight on the board, hence very low IO IMO. All that being said, fold.

Fold is good, because the second V who made it 15 can now shove, making it a lot more expensive. Also IME after there is raising on this type of flops it is hard to realise implied pot odds as they are raising for "protection" so if the card they fear comes they check/fold so its hard to extract that implied value.

Fold is good here.

Fishy Call but it works for 1/2 in this spot at your depth. . I'm expecting V2 to call a lot more than 4b eff shove especially if you call again. He'd have to have the stones or close to it to 4b over the strength of V1 3b+hero calls. His first 15 raise feels more pair+SD, gutter, 57ish... immediate odds are bad because we have to hit ott or the hand is over with this line (I'm folding T,9 turns) but I think the implieds are there at this depth and if V2 does flat flop, there's a decent chance he will call off V1 shove and your call ott with 2p stuff enough times (most 1/2 Vs aren't adjusting hand strengths in limped pots)

Snap fold.

I'd fold.

I'd probably fold pre as well. If I am going to play 109 I would raise first and probably play in later position

My read and the reads of others ITT were on regarding both V's.

V1 flopped the str8 with sooted big lick (6-9).

V2 had a pair and a gutter and didn't improve.

Both the turn and river were fours of different colours. V1 scoops pot and leaves. Well played sir.

8-9?

No V2 had 9-5 sooted, sorry for not posting exact hand. Not very helpful given 5-4 hits the boat (though that is completely irrelevant to my decision point.)

You pay $99.00 per month for his vids?! Are they really worth it?

galfond bucks are entirely different than sklansky bucks

You lost me at "I think Galfond is a tool."

This is a clear fold.

My experience of 3bets in multiway limped pots is that they are about the clearest indication of a monster that you can get. This is a trivial fold.