Villain is a lag that is very sticky, has been reraising with weak hands. MP played very few hands but ran a big bluff and was caught. 1/2 nl. My image is tight, I'm very card dead. Six handed.

About $250 effective.

MP limps, Villain on cutoff makes it $10, I call with A9 on the button.
MP makes it $35, Villain calls, I call.

Flop: T76

I check, MP bets $10, Villain raises to $45, Hero is all in for $180 total.

MP folds. Villain tanks and says: i would snap if it was anyone but you.

Did I make a mistake going all in in this spot if the v is sticky?

This question is weird. Of course you shouldn't try to do this if you think villain has a pair and is always calling you. If you think you have enough fold equity to justify getting it in when you have maybe like 20-25% equity or so against a loose calling range, then fine, get it in. But he needs to be folding pretty often, which you say he's not...

Nah, or if so, it's a small one. Worst case you are up against a set, and even then you are about 33% to win the hand. Given read on this V, I don't think you can narrow his combos to a set alone.

EDIT:

Huh? Hero is ahead of TP, and even slightly ahead of TPTK....

V called me with 88, no spade.

I just need to know did I make a mistake bluffing someone who is so sticky. I actually didn't mind the call, it was 50/50 + fold equity. I guess I don't have that against someone who paid off every hand.

Oh those days when you miss everything.

I was so card dead for 2 hours that decided to use my image.

As long as you have As9s it is a semi-bluff not a bluff. Against a station shoving a semi-bluff is fine as long as you have enough equity and don't mind high variance poker. Against a LAG you have better then 50% equity against most of his range because he has worse spade draws in his range. Having the As in your hand helps because all of his spade draws are worse, having the Ts on the board helps because if he has a pair and a worse spade draw you are ahead.

With a less powerful draw, such as 98o on a AT7 rainbow board where you only have a straight draw and villain likely has top pair+ you need FE to make it profitable. In those situations don't try it against a station. If he gives you good enough odds you can chase because a station will be more likely to pay off when you do hit.

And obviously in this hand if you don't have a spade draw you are on a pure bluff and shouldn't try it against a station. A station has a lot of hands that will call off and you are now behind his range, even the weak top pairs are ahead of you.

Do we have the A9 here? If so, this is hardly classified as a bluff. We have massive equity versus basically anything.

Yeah my assumption here based on the word "bluff" was that this was not A9ss... But then you said you're 50/50, so...????

Against a station, shipping here with A9ss probably has similar EV as just calling the raise. Hard to say.

If you're simply plugging in your hand vs 88, you''re doing it wrong. You have to give a range to what hands he's raising the flop with; what % of those hands will fold; and your equity vs the range of hands that will call.

Semi bluff, sure. He almost folded, that was close. I thought I'm against a draw or a 7 because he chose the same line with 2 overs or 1 pair before. Very hard to assigne a range to someone who plays any 2. But I had a read that it's definitely not a set, straight or 2 pair.

To be honest it doesent really matter what he have when you have this strong of a combodraw: your allin is a +EV play regardless, unless youre playing very deep stacked, wich is obviously not the case here.

Important to remember though, that even if its a clear allin +EV- doesent mean you scoop the pot everytime.

One thing... I hope you'd make this play with KT or AT too...

Another question. Should have I reraised pre? Given that V range is 22+, 54o+, 34s+, A2o+, basically 80% range. I'm not including mp because that guy was not looking to be involved in big pots oop.

Absolutely. I missed every flop in 7 hours. I'd be happy to have a T there.

That guy raised $15 with QJo and called $80 all in with it. I mean that's a perfect spot for preflop reraise with As9s? I chickened out.

fold pre, where are all the fold pre comments??? fold pre and then fold pre again. A9 is the gimp hand. big drop off in value from AT to A9. fold pre. let this one go pre.

1. We were 6 handed
2. V raised all sort of garbage

Bad HH make bad threads.

If you have As9s, that's critical information that should have been in OP. Your post above implies you did have As9s, so I'm going to assume that's true. I am a little curious why you haven't just come out and said so directly.

If you wanted to ISO the loose raiser, yes, you should have 3b pre yourself. Calling the 10 just invites others to climb on board. When another, tight player limp/RR, you should fold. Your original plan was to play against loosey-goosey. Now you've got a tight player saying he's got a big hand. What was the plan for post flop here? Bluff him off his strong hand? Flop a flush draw and get there? Flop 2P? Yes, his raise is on the small side, but I think the info that he L/RR is more significant than the info that he L/RR smallish. It's not like LLSNL V's never make sizing mistakes.

Action on the flop is weird. Tight MP leads for 10 into a 105 pot. Then V raises to 45, making the pot 160 with either 45 or 35 to call. I have no idea what these people are up to and you have a metric tonne of equity, so go ahead and stick it in.

Before you get too fist-pumpy, remember that you're against two V's (when you jam), not one. That means your FE is reduced and your equity is reduced (more likely to be against a set, more likely to be up against something that taints some outs (such as A6 or 98, rendering the A no good), and more likely to be against something that has a redraw (like 76s). It's still the right move, just not as good as it is against one V.


In summary: either 3b to ISO or fold pre. If you have As9s, jam flop. If you have some other A9, fold flop.

Mp Limp re-raises and we call with a9s......
Regardless of what happens ffs fold a9 to 3!.... Or 4! Bluff it if you want, would not hate that play, but calling 3!s with a9 is just burning money

Not reading any of this. Just read the title and there's the answer.

Of course I have As9s goddamnit! Thank the mod that deleted my post, I copied it and missed that the suits were gone.

No, I'm against 1. The other one looked up to something weird and gave it up against the big stack. Or he's got a draw and doesn't have the A of spades and I do. He wasn't calling jams without a good hand.

For deciding whether to jam or not, it matters how many are in at your decision point. There are two V's left to act if you raise.

Part of the confusion is b/c of the title of the thread. With As9s it's a semibluff with lots of equity and we're obv continuing; it's not really a "bluff or don't bluff" decision.

If we flat, what do we expect V to do with his range on brick turns? On scare cards? (I haven't done the math, but it looks it's pretty close on whether we should call a turn jam on a brick if MP folds to the flop raise.) If V is ~always going to jam the turn and we're always going to call, might as well shove now and get whatever FE we can from his weaker marginal hands.