MP, Villain - (gambler, car salesman, been reraising me ALOT) Stack $800
Button, Me- (Image tight aggressive) Stack $500, AdKh

Villan raises $10
I reraise $30
Villain Calls

flop is 8hAc3s

Villain checks
I raise to $25
Villain Calls

Turn is 5h

He bets into me $100
I call

river is 7c
Villain bets $200
me...?
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Same game....
Me HJ- AdTd (stack $700)
Villain - Button (stack $1000) biggest fish at the table, he's stuck $3K already

I raise $15
Villain calls

Flop Ts9d2d

I raise $30
Villain calls

Turn 9c

I bet $60
He raises me to $120

I KNOW he has a 9. But this is a pure implied odds call. If I hit my flush or a T, I will get his whole stack. NO DOUBT. Hes stuck $3k and we are only 90 minutes into the game. He just keeps buying in for another dime everytime he gets busted. Boards like AdKdQdJd2c, he'll call an AI with a deuce! Then just rebuy! CRAZY stuff like that!

River Jd
I check
He bets $100
I raise $200
He shoves

Me...?

Hand 1) What does his pre raising range look like?

What has villain been re-raising you with? Air? the nuts? Do we not know? It looks like you have position on him so is he check raising a lot?

Does he have any hands that pickup a combo draw on the turn?

calling 200 into 500 is close I think. Wish I could offer more advice






Hand 2) This is gross. 3betting the checkraise when the flush hits is super strong. I imagine he would raise the flop for protection with a set or two pair. Im all for ranges but I have to believe the only hand he can do this with is J9 as sick as that sounds.

But I suppose after putting half of our stack into this pot we can call ONLY (and this is important) if you really believe this guy will shove over your checkraise with an inferior hand.

PM me the results of hand 2!

Hand 1 - I think we need a ton more info on villain. Is he capable of doing this with a hand like AT? If he does that all the time with dominated hands then shove. Does he only do this with 2pr+? If so fold. Can he balance between the two? Call. Considering the amount of money at stake I think we are beat here, but like I said we need more info. Maybe he is capable of bluffing (whether he knows it or not). Most (bad) LLSNL players don't turn their hands into bluffs on the turn for large amounts.

Hand 2 - If you are going to c/r the river then be prepared to call it off, otherwise just b/f (if he only raises the nuts) or c/c (reasonable amounts if a large bet is equal to the nuts). It seems like villain is ready to just stack off with anything though according to your description. The problem here is calling (in your example) is not equal to raising (this hand). You probably just need to call it off though. I'm guessing you ran into a boat.

Hand 1: Your flop bet is kinda' small, there's $67 in the pot and you C-bet TPTK for $25, I think this should be more like $40. He might have thought your small C-bet was just a standard fire and called with the intention of taking the pot away on further streets. I think that's exactly what happened - Villain saw your bet size was small and decided to call and take it away from you by leading turn and river.

Hand 2: CALL river.

Call hand 1.

Hand 2 is completely player/read dependent. Just make it 325 otrr

Hand 1 boils down to read on villain. His top range is a set, but he paid a heavy price to set mine (so I'd discount that). Could be snapping off with Ax, 2p combo. Doubt the straight. 1010+ pp, isn't giving you credit for an A?

So there's $7 (sb/bb) + his $15 = $22 when you reraise $30 to $52. He calls the $20 making the pot $72. Did I get that correct? If so, you're flop cbet is way too small. Against described V, I'm likely getting it all in with TPTK.

Hand 2, would have b/c than c/r. As is, I'm not buying the FH. Call.

Some of you are reading the HH's wrong. In hand 2 we c/r and villain shoves.

People play pp's all the time for the wrong price. Probably more so than any other hand. We should be asking if villain is capable of raising 88 and 33. Many people limp those hands. Given description though he probably does raise those hands. Another thing people in LLSNL (especially gamblers) don't like to do is fold to a 3bet. I would not discount a set here. It's a very real possibility.

Bet 225 is probably better otr.

Good counterpoint.

Everyone is asking for more info on the 1st villain. He's not the greatest player. I showed a bluff early on (against a friend of mine), then a few hands later I bluffed a guy, I let him see 1 card. The freaking dealer turned both cards over. Two bluffs shown (I NEVER show any cards), it upset this guy. He is now raising me EVERY HAND preflop. I mean every hand. if I do call and make it to the flop, he will 3bet me. So yes....he's doing it with air most of the time.

Easy snap calls against both described villains, especially the donator in hand 2. Hopefully you poked him with that min c/r just to get him to spazz off his stack with any 9.

Hand 2: How loose is this villain preflop? You've described him as an absolute mega-station postflop, but is he the type to l/c or flat every hand pre? If so, there are lots of 9x hands he can have that don't have full houses, and he might spaz with them.

If I have the pot right, you have to call 335 to win 1165 so you have to win 28% of the time. If he ever does this with a naked 9 or a (very) strangely played flush or straight draw that got there on the river, then it's a call imo. (Side note: if you are going to c/r river, I think you should raise larger. I'm pretty sure anything that calls the min-raise should call 275 or more)

You nailed it. I even set it up, one of the bluffs I had shown was against him. Earlier, I shoved the river with Q high. I new if I could catch a hand, then cr, or shove the river, I could get his stack if he had any piece of the board at all. But remember, the reason these type of plays work is because a fish gets lucky and hit sometimes. I want to make sure I wasn't leaving anything out on my thought process.