Hero: 380 Stack
Villian: About 700 Stack has lost some big pots and won some big pots. Shown down strong hands.
Villian is UTG and limps.
Hero calls on the cutoff with 55
Button call and BB completes.
Pot:12
Flop is A5k
Checks around to me and I bet 15
Button tanks for 50 secs and folds, BB fold UTG Calls
Turn: A
UTG leads for 15
Hero raises to 50
UTG Snap Shoves
Hero ??

Calling very quickly. If he limped AK good for him. We block A5. What are we afraid of? We started about 125bb deep so this isn't some massive deep stack sick spot. Stick the money in.

+1

Has table been very aggro? Have you seen him limp/rr from EP before?

If not, I like a raise pre.

Also, would anyone play AK like that? Seems excessive 4bet jam 50 to 300+ with the uber nuts


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I’m beating him into the pot and if he has AKo nh sir, players checks please.

There was one guy that was very aggro but I busted him earlier. The villain raised more often then anyone at the table for about 15 each time never limp rr though.

Yes indeed I called quicker than he shoved it in.
This was the dream spot I was waiting for.
Unfortunately the river comes and it is a K.
What is even more gross is he flips over his KK.
This is so sick that even a naked K or A and beats me.

Oversets happen, annoying but not a crazy hand.

I call it off here because Ax seems much likelier than a better boat. Note if he raises pre we still get stacked so w/e.

Just a cooler spot, but I'm super excited to get all the money in on the turn.

This is the literal definition of "MUBS" if we're not almost jumping out of our seat to get the money in here. AA/AK/KK are highly improbable given the action, and we heavily block the A5 combos. If he happens to have one of those, then NH.

Extremely easy gii considering PF and flop and turn sizing/action.
If you need an explanation, just consider that the limped pot takes perceived boats+ mostly out of play for all players across the board. You also might think that any AA or AK pre trap is going to be sprung otf by V pretty often, but if by some force of the universe he waited to spring a trap on the turn, then you'd imagine it would be a size other than all-in considering you have 300 back -- If he can think deep enough to slowplay this hard, that same mind almost always would aim to reduce FE ott not max it out because what could you possibly call with other than a worse boat.

So, you're basically drawing dead->1 out against the most extreme slow play line with the rare unfortunate circumstance (for you) of having bottom boat. If that's all gonna happen, then hand him the dough or just find a 5.

Sure, it's a limped pot, and sure, it's $400 in a limped pot, and sure, people play nonsensically, but when 5 low-frequency events have to happen in sequence in order to be behind when you turn your second strongest possible hand AND your V has shown a proclivity for big pots AND he has all kinds of hands more frequently available to take even a low frequency line (Ax overprotecting/trapping vs your FD or comfortable gii vs your ax) then you just flick in comfortably knowing the universe is on your side, so far.

Would it be wrong to just flat the turn? Thinking this over, that would be the only way to have avoided this. I would've easily folded on the river to any bet.

The point here is that you actually DON'T want to avoid this. Sure, the outcome is unfortunate but you want to be shoveling chips is as soon as V shows interest in the hand. SHOVELING. V's will do this all the time w/ any A rather than the 4 or 5 combo's you're behind. The K on the river is irrelevant. Purely irrelevant. Don't try to avoid this spot. Don't try to avoid getting it all in on the turn. Work to make that happen, reap profits.

If a genie popped out of my white claw tonight and granted me three wishes, the first be happiness for friends and family, and the second would be to forever be all-in with 85% equity w 1 card to come. The third, Paige Spiranac on my bag.

Worst part about this is it just adds to this dickhead villains confidence in a limping strategy.

Classic spot where a fish will potentially overvalue a hand like AJ


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^ post #14

This is in fact a good thing. If I had a choice, they’d all limp 100% of hands.

If this dude wants to play KK this badly forever let him. What will more likely happen is that we will get to overlimp like A4s and beat him when we flop an ace, or we overlimp and hit our set against his overpair, or we overlimp and make a straight / flush and beat him that way. I’d gladly play for 1 bb constantly if it means I can play for it all on my terms against you whenever I’d like to.


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I like raising 5s in cutoff better than limping