Ishflop - yes, remembering that terrible players catch hands too would save us all a lot of money or at least would save me a lot a money. The worst player at the table still catches A’s every 221 hands....

Here’s the simple thing to remember: if you’re getting a significant portion of your stack in, in a showdown-bound game, with a significant range edge, you will be impossible to beat unless you’re making incorrect exploits.

Like if 3 dudes call you with 40% of hands (not including KK+) and you start with 88+, ATs+, KTs+, QJs, AJo+, you’ll have the best hand at showdown 36.7% of the time. If you get 10% of your stack in, you can comfortably get all in over 2 streets, so you can even do things like check with ATs on the A76 to see if someone blasts off with almost no equity at all


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Agree, +1. This is the recipe and logging tons of hours. Grind it out and play tons of volume= print money longterm.

Does this mean if you see a flop that $7 is automatically raked from the pot? Is there any money raked from the pot if you don't see a flop? And I'm assuming players typically tip $1 a pot as well?

Depending on how many $40 min BI stacks there are and how exactly the rake is dropped, this actually may be a pretty difficult structure to overcome almost regardless of how bad the players are, imo.

But bottom line is you should probably be playing like a complete rock, imo. Only absolute premiums from any position other than LP and only playing speculative hands in LP in limped pots.

GgoodluckG

some of you are drastically under-estimating the implications of super high rake/drop and shallow stacks. .

I doubt more than two people at the table are even winning on average after a session with that structure, let alone winning enough to make it worth a sophisticated player’s time.

This is not Commerce with a $40 maximimum and a pre-flop drop. $40 is the min, but max buy is $300. While there are some min-buyers, I think OP is exaggerating how short the game plays. While my North Florida experience is a few years old now, I rarely saw a stack under $100, and when I did it was usually a stack that started at $100 and dwindled down due to seeing way too many flops and then folding when they missed. $40 buys were usually late at night "this is all I have left" re-buys.

Similarly, the rake is not a flat $7 drop, unless it changed very recently. It's 10% to a max of $5, which is a bit steep, but not crazy. Sucks mostly on small pots, as medium+ sized pots would have capped at 5% anyway. The extra $2 is (again, unless there are recent changes I'm not aware of) a promo drop, most of which funds High Hand promos that return money to the pool pretty quickly.

I think you're under-estimating how bad live 1|2 players are. Honestly I think nobody at the average table even knows what position is.