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01-11-2017 , 05:51 PM
Normally I prefer MTT's, but I'm going to Vegas for a long weekend, and due to time constraints, I plan on playing a few cash sessions.

I have a roll of around 1200. When I do play cash, I usually play 1-3. I'm wondering if I move up to play a few sessions of 2-5, is there a big difference in skill?

Thanks.....
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01-11-2017 , 06:54 PM
$1200 bank roll? Don't play $2/$5, wasting your time. If you want to enjoy yourself on the weekend, you have a better chance at success with $1/$2.

Naturally $2/$5 should have slightly more regs, and the better regs at $2/$5 are better than the "better" regs at $1/$2.

Not saying there is much of a difference, but, there is a slight and could be a major difference depending upon the room/table.
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01-11-2017 , 06:59 PM
What happens if you lose the $1200? No more poker for the long weekend?

$1200 is easy enough to bust in a 1/3 NL game over 3 days but much more so (obviously) the higher stakes you play. So if you're simply looking to keep yourself in the game for the 3 days you are there without having to tap out, I'd suggest playing as low as possible (i.e. 1/2 NL). If you run well the first couple of days you can re-evaluate and possibly sit higher if you're feeling it.

Ggoodluck!G
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01-11-2017 , 07:09 PM
Pretty much as said above. The problem isn't that the top end of play is that much better than 1/2. It is the bottom range of play is much better at 2/5. Nobody who plays once or twice a year sits down at the 2/5 table. The whales are playing at the 5/10 and bigger tables and the newbies are sitting at 1/2.
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01-11-2017 , 08:46 PM
Vegas 1-3 players are a bunch of nits. You're never losing 4 BI's unless you hit a bunch of coolers or pay off the nits when they bet/raise.
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01-11-2017 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Nice_Guy_Eddie
Vegas 1-3 players are a bunch of nits. You're never losing 4 BI's unless you hit a bunch of coolers or pay off the nits when they bet/raise.
LOL what? Not sure you have EVER played in Vegas lol
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01-11-2017 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Briro2017
LOL what? Not sure you have EVER played in Vegas lol
I actually agree with Nice_Guy_Eddie.

Unless you are in Vegas when there is more traffic/visitors, those games are super nitty. Filled with locals who are nits.
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01-11-2017 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jc315
I actually agree with Nice_Guy_Eddie.

Unless you are in Vegas when there is more traffic/visitors, those games are super nitty. Filled with locals who are nits.
Off the strip? Ok maybe. The strip is FAR FAR FAR from nitty lmfao
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01-11-2017 , 09:02 PM
I mean with any room/game, its going to vary. But vegas is often seen as this poker fantasy land, but its juts not really the case. unless you go during a good time (and granted there are a bunch of times throughout the year where there is a ton of traffic in vegas), there will be more locals who play nitty.
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01-11-2017 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Briro2017
LOL what? Not sure you have EVER played in Vegas lol
I just made a post about this. I have to go to Vegas for work a couple times a year. Please tell me the action places to play! Aria, MGM, and Venetian were a complete joke. It's easy to smash those players playing sLAG, but it's a bit of a grind. I'm up for more action tables, preferably against garbage players for rolls.
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01-11-2017 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
Pretty much as said above. The problem isn't that the top end of play is that much better than 1/2. It is the bottom range of play is much better at 2/5. Nobody who plays once or twice a year sits down at the 2/5 table. The whales are playing at the 5/10 and bigger tables and the newbies are sitting at 1/2.
Vegas has almost no 5/10 outside of Bellagio and Wynn so you'll get some whales in the 2/5 games. However, I still think 2/5 is much tougher in Vegas.

Some 2-5 games only have a $500 max buy-in. Most have $1000 max and Wynn has the $1500 max. I've been in games with $1000 max that are far tougher than any 1-2 NL game I've ever played in, with the 5th or 6th best player at the table being far better than anyone you'll see in a typical 1-2 game, and the best players obviously being way better. Games with the $500 max seem much softer but still clearly tougher than 1-2. There are still soft spots everywhere but in general players are tougher, more aggressive, trickier and smarter compared to 1-2 (which isn't always saying much because 1-2 is so soft but someone who regularly plays 1-2 should notice a clear difference).
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01-11-2017 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Briro2017
LOL what? Not sure you have EVER played in Vegas lol
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Originally Posted by Briro2017
Off the strip? Ok maybe. The strip is FAR FAR FAR from nitty lmfao
Aria 1-3 is nitty IMO. I've never played in a room with as much chopping and chances to steal the blinds in a 1-2 or 1-3 game than that room.
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01-11-2017 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
Aria 1-3 is nitty IMO. I've never played in a room with as much chopping and chances to steal the blinds in a 1-2 or 1-3 game than that room.
Game selection. Research. Games in Vegas after 10pm are NOT nitty lol.
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01-11-2017 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Nice_Guy_Eddie
I just made a post about this. I have to go to Vegas for work a couple times a year. Please tell me the action places to play! Aria, MGM, and Venetian were a complete joke. It's easy to smash those players playing sLAG, but it's a bit of a grind. I'm up for more action tables, preferably against garbage players for rolls.
I mean dont go to bed at 8pm gramps. Print money?
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01-11-2017 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jc315
I mean with any room/game, its going to vary. But vegas is often seen as this poker fantasy land, but its juts not really the case. unless you go during a good time (and granted there are a bunch of times throughout the year where there is a ton of traffic in vegas), there will be more locals who play nitty.
Play AFTER 10pm. How do people not get this???????????
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01-11-2017 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Briro2017
Game selection. Research. Games in Vegas after 10pm are NOT nitty lol.
I've played at Aria several times past 10pm each month lol.

Also even though they are nitty the games are still really easy to beat. It's only really bad if the plan is to sit there and wait for hands.
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01-11-2017 , 09:25 PM
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I've played at Aria several times past 10pm each month lol.

Also even though they are nitty the games are still really easy to beat. It's only really bad if the plan is to sit there and wait for hands.
Sure. And even at 4pm, it depend on the table. If its nitty GD move lol. JESUS. Vegas is nitty LMFAO.
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01-11-2017 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Briro2017
Sure. And even at 4pm, it depend on the table. If its nitty GD move lol. JESUS. Vegas is nitty LMFAO.
LMFAO at you thinking nitty games are something to be scared of. It's 1-2 and 1-3. The games are still really easy!

I don't think I'd describe the games overall as nitty though. I just think Aria is compared to the other rooms and Venetian used to be this way. I assume Caesars and TI are too but I don't play there.

There are plenty of rooms on the Vegas Strip running freerolls trying to attract the freeroll nits, and other rooms keeping the rake low and the comps higher trying to attract the rake and comp nits. So it seems silly to act like nits and OMC types don't exist in Vegas no matter what time it is.
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01-11-2017 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Briro2017
Play AFTER 10pm. How do people not get this???????????
Dude. After 11pm was the nittiest time! 7pm-10pm was the most action. I only played Tuesday-Thursday, so maybe the weekends are better?
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01-11-2017 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
LMFAO at you thinking nitty games are something to be scared of. It's 1-2 and 1-3. The games are still really easy!
+1. Super easy, but super boring, constantly picking off limps and orphan pots. Maybe I shouldn't complain. I'm sure this thread will be locked as well. I apologize again and will take this conversation to LVL.
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01-12-2017 , 12:44 AM
Don't play 2/5 with a 1200 bankroll if you want to play across 3 days. And yes there is a noticeable difference.

I'm sure a lot of the Vegas regs are nitty. Most regs everywhere are nitty.
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01-12-2017 , 04:20 AM
People can't beat live nit games? What's going on. I bet you can have a huge win rate in a live nit game.

Sure nit games can be annoying, but they are also some of the easiest games out there.

Depending on the live "nit" game, they are just nits postflop and stupid pre-flop. Some are nitty limp/callers and I always lol at 4-5 callers on BTN with 87o, I raise, everyone folds or I get 1 caller and I c-bet and they fold.

You will usually actually upset 1 of the nits and they'll start to bemoan you keep raising them out of seeing a flop. It can actually work in all the nits leave and boom we now have a table full of recs because nits don't want to play. This depends entirely on the "nits".
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01-12-2017 , 01:41 PM
It's pretty easy to lose $1200 in one session of 2/5. I'd stick to 1/3 if that is all you have to play with.
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01-12-2017 , 03:14 PM
As others have noted, you're not at all properly rolled for the 2/5 in Vegas. I was playing 2/5 there last night and rapidly burned through a $500 buy-in within a couple hours of being card dead and very modest run-bad. Not hard to imagine $1,200 disappearing if things don't go your way for a night.

I would also avoid the 1/2 out here. It plays super small and if you're used to 1/3 and want to take a shot at 2/5, you'll be pulling your hair out. They really are bad games.

Sticking to 1/3 to start is your best bet. I've played the 1/3 at the Wynn/Encore a few times and it's a good fit for you. It is a well run game in a nice room. The game itself is only "ok" and not great action, but I'd grind that for a day or two and see where your roll is at, and then sit at a 2/5 as you get closer to departure.
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01-12-2017 , 05:05 PM
Thanks for the feedback. I'm staying at the Aria, so I'll grind a little 1-3, and my buddy likes the Wynn, maybe pop in there also.
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