Alright, I'll contribute. Happened about a week ago, this is how I think it went down:

2/3 Game - 9 or 10 handed @ 3am

V1 - Under $200 stack
Never seen him before, seems super loose and gambly, very quiet, has bought in for less than the max 4 or 5 times now, several hands back ran all the way down with A-high after putting in most of his stack and lost, didn't care, topped off. Current table target, plays most flops

V2 - $1000 or more stack
Young gal who I've played with for the past 4-5 hours, smiley and talkative, built up a nice 3-4 buy-in stack, seems to be playing good cards and not throwing money away at all, kinda got the feeling she was sandbagging her image, quietly asked one of the regulars at my end of the table who said she's there plenty. She and I got moved from another table that broke an hour ago where we were the deepstacks, but all her hands were fairly uninteresting, taking down small pots, not a single big one I remember.

Hero - $700 and change
Punk kid, very loose, probably horrible table image, chopped the previous night's tournament heads up but I don't think anyone at that table knew, playing any 2 cards preflop for 1bb, guy to the right of me kept folding and joking about how I'd call and beat him with anything, stacked him earlier with a flopped K4 boat. Stack swinging widely from 500-1200 for most of the night.

V1 limps in early position for 3, limps around to V2

V2 raises in late position (HJ) to 30, folds around to H on the button

H calls with 4 4, folds around to V1 who calls

Flop (pot about $100) 4 5 6

V1 (170ish) leads out for $30

V2 (1000ish) glances back at the board, then quickly raises to $130 and starts moving chips out, V2 instantly smiles

H (700ish) thinks for about 2 seconds, decides V2 has an overpair or big diamonds and then declares All In, V2 spills the chips that she started moving out, table laughs, she looks super cereal

V1 nods and says call, V2 starts tanking/arranging initial raise chips

*Because this is in an AZ casino playing 3/300, max bet is actually 300 so my AI is actually 430 (her 130 + a maximum 300 raise from me)*

I confirm with dealer that my verbal AI is actually 430 and move it in, V2 tanks for several minutes looking very serious and not joking around/chatting, rechecks cards at least twice, then eventually calls messily, dealer has to recheck everyone's chips and make the side pot.

Table is flooded in chips, hero stands up partially to see the board and because I'm the most awake I've been in 7+ hours.

Turn (pot about 1000ish) 5

V2 (600ish) eyes widen, does a moderately loud inhale hiss and says check with a very quick and strongly accented "ch"

H (under 300 left) ???

Is this a rhetorical question or something?

Not completely. With the bottom set turning a boat and 1 straight flush blocker, do you check and try to let her improve or just put it in and risk the flush draw folding/other straight flush draw hitting/overpair catching a better boat?

Not sure what the question is on the turn. You're entirely committed just shove.

Interesting spot is the flop, and I like your play. You're committed against V1. The hands that beat you (66, 55, 87, 73 and 33) are usually either limping behind or folding pre flop. Has V2 limped at all pre? I'd feel even better about the play if she has some pre flop limping range, because 66, 55 and 87 would all be in it.

Turn is easiest shove ever. If she's on a draw, she's not likely to fold if you put $300 into a $1000 pot, but she'll definitely fold river if she whiffs.

Good lord you are overthinking LLSNL. Shove it in like you tried to do on the flop.

Not much to question here, you are already pot committed, you hit your boat, shove the rest out there.

Yes, but not too much. Most of her preflop plays were standard sized raises that seemed pretty ABC when I saw the cards, she would always call in the SB for another dollar instead of folding it when someone else entered (unlike some nits who fold getting 12 to 1 on their SB completion). I don't remember her limping anything premium, but she was in a good number of limped family pots where everyone threw in 1bb.

Yeah yeah, ok everyone.

I was trying not to make this a 1 post story because the conversation we had after the hand made me wonder if I should have picked up on something.

Since I'm the only person who thinks it was interesting:

RESULTS


I instantly declared All In again after her turn check and she snap called and practically giggled. I cussed under my breath and flipped the 44, she threw the 66, river was another 5.

V1 flopped a straight with 37o.

The reason I mention it is because right after she said she wanted me to GII but after seeing my cards she thought I should have checked.

I told her that there was no scenario where I would have ever checked that turn card, and she seemed surprised by that, started to say something about it, and then decided not to.

It made me wonder on the entire drive home about why checking would have been a good play.

Two letters missing in thread title, imo.

ETA: Actually, I guess preflop could actually generate an interesting discussion. We have position, and *seemingly* big stacks for implied odds, but we're also up against a good player. Is setmining really going to be profitable here, even if the fish is coming along (who is coming along for 15% of stacks so implied odds against him are poor)? In times like these, we really have to consider the RIO spots when we make the hand we are looking for and yet another good player is willing to put in huge stacks; these spots devastate our setmining profitability. I guess I'm saying depending on how good she is, you could argue for a fold preflop, imo.

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I would file this under bizarre poker advice given at the table and not worry about it. Can't see any hands in her range that would ever fold turn and the only hands in your range that should be checking turn are probably flush draws.

How can you be calling 1bb with anything then thinking raising with 99 is too loose in the other thread wtf...

Anyway. Okay I just read rest of hand. Don't raise if you're not going to get in that turn. Flatting flop could be fine too.