Brand new to the table...1st hand I played I flopped quad 7's for the high hand but only made about $100 from other player. Good way to start the day but couldn't help but feel like this is the kiss of death...hahaha. Hand in question is my 2nd hand I played maybe 2 hands after.

Villain ($1200) - Early-mid 30's hispanic male. Biggest stack at table but definitely a casual player. Guy next to me said Villain had been running pure and sucking out a lot...also had been throwing some bluffs out there that had been working. Not sure if competent or not...most people are pretty laggy at this casino though so putting him in that category given image.

Hero ($600) - Unknown to villain but 30 yr old white male with sunglasses.

Hero is dealt JJ UTG+1 and raises to $25...MP player calls and Villain calls from button.

Flop ($77) J98 rainbow

Hero leads out $55...MP folds...Villain tanks and ends up calling.

Turn ($187) 4 ....no flush draws

Hero bets out $160. Villain seems reluctant but calls.

River ($507) 10

Hero checks...villain bets out $250 fairly quickly.

I did not think villain was slowplaying a straight and couldn't see him having a Q or 7 in his hand. Don't think he's calling with QK, AQ, Q9, QT would have already been there, QJ would mean he has the case J and not thinking he really would have 7x here.

Hero??? What do you think of my line up until then???

Perfect sizing the whole way. I might bet turn a little smaller to keep in worse but your sizing is fine too especially at loose tables.

I don't agree with your ranging on villain. I mean if what you say is correct then you obv have to snap call here. When villain tank calls on that flop he could easily have a straight. Most villains love to slow play and also if he didn't have a monster hand, he would be way more likely to snap call flop and turn. His snap bet on river polarizes his range to straights and bluffs. Is he good enough to turn a pair into a bluff? Because he certainly has at least one pair on this board. QT, QJ, QQ, Q9, Q8 all have you beat and they're all hands he could easily have. He might even valuebet T7, J7, 97, 87 if he's decent

Really like your line all the way up until river, you smashed the flop and is starting to build a pot right away and making solid bets on all streets.

On the river i just puke fold, because i just dont see 2/5 villains bluff these spots very often. 9 out of 10 times i feel like villain has it in these sort of spots.

Villain would have to play a really LAG style of poker before i consider calling the river here, and i also would like to know for sure that he is capable of pulling off bluffs on boards like this. A big percentage of our player pool just isnt capable of doing that in my experience.

I like your line here if you checked river for pot control planning to call any reasonable bet. If he is beating you he probably has QT and flopped it or 76 and chased you down. There are enough worse hands in his range that I can't see folding though. Smaller sets, and pair+draw that hit two pair on river may be betting for value or bluffing.

With a read that villain is loose/passive and only bets his draws when he hits, you could fold here but you don't have enough information yet.

The player pool where I'm at is about 90% hispanic (usually table talk is in Spanish including the dealers)....from my experiences playing here....generalizations are usually correct. Villains are very aggressive when they see any signs of weakness and also call very light....a lot of bluffing whether the line makes sense or not. Truth be told....a lot of drug money and people don't seem to care much about the money so just don't find a lot of passive players...if there are, they stick out like a sore thumb. Can be a gold mine if you're running good....

This was my thinking....just from seeing the first few hands at the table though, know that villain is not passive.

*Grunch*

He might be turning one pair into a bluff or betting 2 pair thinking you have KK or AA, though if he's smart he'd see it's a bad bet since you probably cannot call w/ those hands. I'd say the majority of his range after he calls the turn is a pair with an open ended straight draw.

Why can't he be slow playing a straight, esp given the rainbow board? I can see him having Q-X if it's QJ or QQ. I agree it's tough to see how he gets to the river with 7-X.

I'm calling river due to the fact that he's shown some bluffs before, our hand certainly doesn't look like we have a straight, and there's some chance he thinks he's value betting two pair or pocket tens. And I like your line up to the river.

His reaction to calling the turn bet definitely let me know he did not have QT or T7....if he did then was the best actor I have ever seen....

Also, I only had $370 going into river so was thinking over why he just didn't put me all in on river if he had a straight rather than bet $250.

As long as villain is competent (i.e. understands pot odds), we can probably eliminate or discount Q9, Q8, 87, and 97 from his range. If we had bet smaller on the turn, that wouldn't be true.

I agree with Ben -- pretty much what I was thinking. I call.

It seems like more logical, to me, to look at it exactly opposite to that.

He wants you to call, disappoint him.

Why give you great odds to call if he's bluffing?

Well here it goes....

i did read the spoiler, but i agree i think you should call and generally expect to be good unless he shows QQ or QJ.

what he said is hilariously absurd.

More than a third of your stack is IN. The basic rules of commitment that I use make this a snap call.

3-1, Baby.

Playing those guys who will call down to the river with essentially ATC is super profitable. Variance is high though because until you get a feel for how they play and how often they bluff, there is simply no way to range them. You just have to pay them off when they give you good odds.

I think you played the hand optimally, worst river but I think I still call. If V is at all competent I think he is better this river 100% of the time when checked to.

This is a pretty bad rule IMO, especially at LLSNL when Villains often play pretty face up. We would play this hand the same way if we had AA here, but would we call river?

Yeah, I've seen similar players at casinos in southern Arizona. You're spot on about these guys being aggressive at any sign of weakness. I think it's mostly a macho cultural thing rather than a poker strategy. The drug money is basically meaningless to them. They're there just to have fun. I would almost lean towards b/f small on the river against these guys. They will pay you off with 2 pair almost every time. These are ideal Vs to play with though. "Gold mine if you're running good"....yup!