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What the hell does the first number mean? Your total BR and the 2nd is the BR for the shot at the higher limit?

Like I have no idea what the difference between "total br" and "rolling br" is

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02-15-2012 , 03:41 PM

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RunninMan5K

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Total BR is what you have in your bankroll

The second number is what is available to you at that time to use

If you bust that roll, you drop a level on the chart...

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02-15-2012 , 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RunninMan5K

Total BR is what you have in your bankroll

The second number is what is available to you at that time to use

If you bust that roll, you drop a level on the chart...

I don't think your chart makes much sense unless you are trying to be a professional player. I mean I am a BR nit but waiting until you have 18k for a shot at 2/5 seems way way too tight.

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02-15-2012 , 03:49 PM

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I am just posting to post and get the overall discussion moving in a direction...I agree with being aggressive, but also in being realistic with climbing into levels you might need more experience with and falling back BR wise will allow you to do that.

We have a lot of kids or even middle aged men on here trying to make it running 2-5 on strictly a $6K life roll...as a forum, are we going to support that or actually getting a job, saving the money, taking the time to learn, and having a decent roll and shot at moving up?

Just saying...this wasn't a post to offend anyone's aggressive mentality, more to offer a more conservative suggestion.

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02-15-2012 , 04:01 PM

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No I'm all for being conservative, but I'd suggest having a job outside of poker so you don't have to wait for 18k to take a shot at 2/5 is all.

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02-15-2012 , 04:08 PM

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I have a job and 22K so third tier on that chart...but its really tough for the dreamy types to understand that having a job and at least 10K BR, not your own savings, but an actual BR just for poker is essential to actually make a run at the bigger games at some point...ESSENTIAL, Necessary, whatever. I've always had the job part...stable job, but this works for me, and maybe some others, not all.

Just was more of a very conservative approach...

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02-15-2012 , 04:10 PM

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Yeah like I would not suggest gambling with your "**** I lost my job savings"

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02-15-2012 , 04:22 PM

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i lost plenty being an idiot...made some life changes...every1 has to, especially in today's world of media control of the market and corrupt government.

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02-15-2012 , 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RunninMan5K

and this (all of the above) is why I posted it...

I was disagreeing with you, and showing how your numbers are too conservative for live 1/2

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02-15-2012 , 04:28 PM

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I was disagreeing with you, and showing how your numbers are too conservative for live 1/2

Yeah, I know you were, and I mean, thats what the thread is for, and its a solid discussion too. I think there are lots of numbers, both conservative and not out there for BRM and there needs to be something that is clear and cut.

Am I saying you should never take a shot at 2-5 with $500 of a 10K roll? No, not completely, but are you willing to understand that you will not build Rome in a day and put aside all of the glory part, play it one time, and step back down?

I think discipline is the main issue at hand, not so much the conservative numbers part.

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02-15-2012 , 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RunninMan5K

[ ] big balls

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02-15-2012 , 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kwackbars

I agree after taking one shot and winning, 2/5 should be worked in slowly. If you play 2/5 after a win every third session you would be splitting the limits 66%/33%. This would effectively make your total average blind level equal to approximately 1.5/3 blinds.

2/5 * 33% = .66/1.65
1/2 * 66% = .66/1.32
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Total 1.32/2.97 Blinds

This may be a good balance to bridge the gap between 1/2 and 2/5.
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Every fourth time play 2/5

2/5 * 25% = .50/1.25
1/2 * 75% = .75/1.50
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Total 1.25/2.75 Blinds

Similar average there. Maybe when we start running good and get our roll up to 4 or 5k we start doing 2/5 every other time and we get.

2/5 * 50% = 1.00/2.50
1/2 * 50% = .50/1.00
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Total 1.50/3.50 Blinds

As you increase your roll move to 2/5 every two out of three times, then three out of four times, then your a full timer and your roll should be big enough at this point.

Yes yes?

Yes yes! I came up with similar "levels" the other day. It makes a ton of sense. I think mine is a bit more nitty tho.

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02-15-2012 , 11:12 PM

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I have to edit this because I looked mine up and it is crazy nitty.

1/2>90%>2/5 BR 2.5-6K

1/2 >80% >2/5 Br 6-8K

1/2 >60% >2/5 Br 8-10K

etc until I get a br of 20K for full time 2/5

That is crazy nitty isn't it?

I would at least like a 10K br before being full 2/5...
I also plan on playing 300-1K in tournies (similar progression)

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02-15-2012 , 11:16 PM

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Cool story bro

busto life ^

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02-16-2012 , 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by spooner90

busto life ^

That's cold, man! Lol

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Originally Posted by woowoo

I have to edit this because I looked mine up and it is crazy nitty.

etc until I get a br of 20K for full time 2/5

That is crazy nitty isn't it?

I would at least like a 10K br before being full 2/5...
I also plan on playing 300-1K in tournies (similar progression)

Are you truly a good player? If the answer is "yes," then he'll **** yeah that's extra super duper holy crap **** nitty FOR LIVE GAMES.

This was OP's whole point. If you get good somehow, and you have 5k (or more) to play with, then you should go play 2/5 because:

1) it's sooooooo hard to really get anywhere in most 1/2 games since there is less money than bigger games

2) the level of play at 2/5 LIVE games is usually 10% tougher at worst

Don't be BR nits in live games if you are actually a good player, you're just costing yourself money.

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02-16-2012 , 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by spooner90

busto life ^

This.

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02-16-2012 , 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk

[ ] big balls

Or big brain...I am asian so the big balls part isn't all there.

Honesty never hurt, lol.

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02-16-2012 , 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk

That's cold, man! Lol

Are you truly a good player? If the answer is "yes," then he'll **** yeah that's extra super duper holy crap **** nitty FOR LIVE GAMES.

This was OP's whole point. If you get good somehow, and you have 5k (or more) to play with, then you should go play 2/5 because:

1) it's sooooooo hard to really get anywhere in most 1/2 games since there is less money than bigger games

2) the level of play at 2/5 LIVE games is usually 10% tougher at worst

Don't be BR nits in live games if you are actually a good player, you're just costing yourself money.

This

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02-16-2012 , 12:07 PM

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I hate you guys, I'm taking a shot at 2/5 tonight with 1k and if I lose a buyin then w/e I'll just rack up and go play 1/3.

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02-16-2012 , 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 11t

I hate you guys.

LOL

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I'm taking a shot at 2/5 tonight with 1k and if I lose a buyin then w/e I'll just rack up and go play 1/3.

Good luck! Play your game. Please tell us how it goes.

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02-16-2012 , 02:08 PM

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I hate you guys, I'm taking a shot at 2/5 tonight with 1k and if I lose a buyin then w/e I'll just rack up and go play 1/3.

Tell us how it goes, I hope you shipp $5000+

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02-16-2012 , 04:24 PM

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Took a $2/5 shot last week. I think it was partially because of this thread

Ended up getting it in set over set (I had bottom set). bye-bye 10% of BR.

Best of luck to the rest of you brave soldiers.

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02-16-2012 , 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tmckendry

That's pretty tough, but while 10% sounds high, if you lost $500, then you should still have $4500 to work with for 1/2, which is plenty. Good luck in the future

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02-16-2012 , 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tmckendry

Took a $2/5 shot last week. I think it was partially because of this thread

Ended up getting it in set over set (I had bottom set). bye-bye 10% of BR.

that's not that bad, at least you took a shot.