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Monotone flop, pocket 8's facing all in Monotone flop, pocket 8's facing all in

02-01-2012 , 07:21 PM
1-2 NL

Table has been open for about an 90 minutes. Lots of limpers PF. Standard raise has been 3- 5 BB's.

Villain - I switched seats when I saw him coming to open up the table so I would be to his right. We've played a bunch of hours together and I know he likes to raise a lot PF. I Don't recall any big hands we have been in against each other. I would say his preflop raising range (from the button) is any A, j-9 suited and higher, JQ off and higher. stack is about $90

Hero - Been waiting for a decent hand to reraise PF against villain. Haven't been involved in many hands yet (card dead) 2 people mentioned they didn't see me play a hand after the first 3 revolutions so I could be seen as tight... but against villain, he knows I can play loose pre flop and TAG post flop. Also know I am capable of a decent bluff. stack covers villain

Hero in the big blind with 8s 8c.

Limps around villain (on the button) who raises to $10.
Hero raises to $45.
Villain takes a standard amount of time and calls.

Flop comes
4c 6c 10c

Hero checks
Villain shoves for $45.
hero...?

I think villain raises Qs Ks or As. Isn't one to overbet, he typically bets way to low (against pot) and lets people draw cheap.
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02-01-2012 , 07:33 PM
as played: snap it with 1:3 price
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02-01-2012 , 07:35 PM
I question your reason for wanting to be to his right.

As played, meh, I call. Deeper, I just wait for another spot, but for a half PSB all in, I call.
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02-01-2012 , 07:36 PM
next time ship the flop.
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02-01-2012 , 07:37 PM
call... consider shoving pre since he's probably bad enough to call with whatever
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02-01-2012 , 07:52 PM
Why are you raising to $45 preflop? You're OOP and you have a hand that isn't going to like most flops. Checking is terribad, you basically just admitted you 3-betted super light and gives him the green light to shove on you. You only have a bluff catcher and its obvious that you were wrong and that he had JJ+ (I'm guessing JJ Or QQ). Calling isn't bad I guess, I mean you checking let him do this with 2 unpaired broadways, but there isn't much of a discussion, either you were right or wrong.

You should have shoved on the flop (considering effective stacks are less 25BB on the flop). And this is as good of a flop as you're going to get with 88 most times.
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02-01-2012 , 09:34 PM
Mis posted, I was on his left
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02-01-2012 , 09:54 PM
Surprising that you didnt shove flop honestly. This is one of those prime spots where you need to force your opponent on a decision...with the little extra value of him calling you lighter than normal cause of his miniscule stack size. Plus, u have the 8c for back-up. I dont like shoving pre as i dont think he calls a 9X 3-bet with worse. I dont mind a 3bet, but 30 is better than 45. C/f is easier post if the flop is gross.
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02-01-2012 , 10:59 PM
I guess I didn't have a plan for the flop. I would have loved this flop if it wasn't monotone. Am I wrong thinking that his shove is at best Ac? In.the situation it seemed like a difficult call I obviously wanted a similar flop that wasn't all one suit. I do think this villain shoves Qs Ka As and possibly Js. He's not afraid to get it all in pre or post.
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02-01-2012 , 11:35 PM
Not having a plan for the flop when you 3-bet pre is kinda spew. Something to def work on in my opinion. Not too happy with it but a call seems to be in order. He can be shoving any good club or an overpair without a club...both of which we're getting the correct price to call. (I believe)
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02-01-2012 , 11:48 PM
I'm trying to decide whether or not this is spewy to call. I called his shove and he had AK no club. Didn't know if that was.the proper call though. I had a few interesting hands I will post from todays session. Thanks
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