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06-01-2016 , 08:27 PM
There has been a lot of confusion and turmoil at my local 1/3 cash game. The guy running the room is new at running a card game and he isn't sure on what to do. I told him I would ask the forum and let him know the responses that I get.

The question is regarding a Mississippi straddle and when that straddle faces a raise. The straddle is typically always done from the button with the action starting in the small blind. My question is, when the straddler is facing a raise, does the Mississippi straddle act in turn or does the straddle get ultimate last action. There seem to be conflicting opinions on it. So, if you have a minute and coulee let me know, that would be greatly appreciate. Take care.

Thanks
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06-01-2016 , 08:45 PM
Horseshoe Baltimore has a Miss. straddle. Speaking from my experiences there, straddle acts in turn when facing a raise. Preflop action starts from the left of the straddle and just goes clockwise. (In the case of a button straddle, action starts in SB, but Mississippi straddle can be done from any position except for the blinds).
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06-01-2016 , 08:51 PM
I've heard of a variant you describe but it's very rare.
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06-01-2016 , 09:09 PM
Every time I've played with a Mississippi straddle from button, action starts with the small blind but then proceeds in turn.
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06-01-2016 , 09:28 PM
Small blind acts first and proceeds in turn. I have no idea how your method would work nor have I heard of anything that faintly fits that description.
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06-01-2016 , 10:22 PM
Yah it's been weird. They were yelling about it last night. Doesn't make sense that a Mississippi straddle on the button can have ultimate last action after all betting. The way it was working if small blind raise, everyone folded to the cutoff, co would raise and then it would go back to small blind..there could be multiple raises between these two until they were both all in, then the dealer would have the option to call or fold. I will relay this info to the guy. Thank you all.
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06-01-2016 , 11:11 PM
Someone on this sub explained the game you described. Sounded effed up but it does exist.
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06-02-2016 , 12:33 AM
Not sure this helps you, but most smaller games the straddler acts in turn facing a raise but in many of the larger games its ultimate last action. You simply choose one or the other.
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06-02-2016 , 01:38 AM
Not sure what that would look like with ultimate last action, but here it's as everyone else said. Action starts with sb and moves in turn from there on out.
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06-02-2016 , 06:21 AM
From my anecdotal experience with live games:

Mississippi straddle: action starts directly left of straddle and straddle acts in turn facing a raise. Some rooms allow this from any position and others only allow it on the button.

Dallas or "ultimate last" straddle: action starts UTG and goes around skipping the straddle until all preflop action is complete.
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06-02-2016 , 11:59 AM
The definition of a Mississippi Straddle is a button straddle where the action begins with the small blind and moves around to the button, who acts last preflop.

If the straddle is from another position than it's not a Mississippi Straddle, it's just a straddle.

This is standard for several casinos in Vegas (MGM, Monte Carlo, Harrah's, Bally's, Planet Hollywood), with the exception of Caesar's Palace which uses the Dallas straddle rules for button straddles (as described above)
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06-02-2016 , 04:41 PM
MGM only allows straddle from utg
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06-03-2016 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by XanderCage
The definition of a Mississippi Straddle is a button straddle where the action begins with the small blind and moves around to the button, who acts last preflop.

If the straddle is from another position than it's not a Mississippi Straddle, it's just a straddle.

This is standard for several casinos in Vegas (MGM, Monte Carlo, Harrah's, Bally's, Planet Hollywood), with the exception of Caesar's Palace which uses the Dallas straddle rules for button straddles (as described above)
A Mississippi straddle is normally used to refer to a straddle that can be done from any position. If you can only straddle on the button, that is normally referred to as a button straddle. Some people refer to a button straddle as a limited form of Mississippi straddle.
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06-03-2016 , 12:08 PM
Is there a term for this kind of straddle:
Button may straddle for a set amount (eg $5 in a 1/2 game)
If Button chooses not to straddle, then UTG may straddle for a set amount.
Else, carry on.
Action always starts immediately left of the straddle.

People tend to call it Mississippi Straddle, but it's really just a subset of a Mississippi Straddle.

Last edited by berninader; 06-03-2016 at 12:09 PM. Reason: Action
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06-03-2016 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bhanson
From my anecdotal experience with live games:

Mississippi straddle: action starts directly left of straddle and straddle acts in turn facing a raise. Some rooms allow this from any position and others only allow it on the button.

Dallas or "ultimate last" straddle: action starts UTG and goes around skipping the straddle until all preflop action is complete.
This.
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