2/5 Home Game,

Stacks are deep players are splashy.

I feel like Villain in the hand has a personal vendetta versus me. We have a little bit of history together. More recently in a previous session I rooked him for $1500 on the last hand of the night with AK vs 74 on a K427A board, hitting the A on the river.

He is not a good player, appears to be very tight, but often gets bored and opens fairly wide (suited 1 gappers, etc.).

Over time the players in this game think I'm a crazy maniac because I will show up with "Non-Premium" hands in weird spots.

Onto the hand

Hero (UTG) starts with 3500
Villain (Mid) starts with 2000

Hero gets A8 UTG and calls $5, Villain raises to $20 (which is a relatively small raise for this game). This leads me to believe he doesn't have a Premium hand. 3 other callers, I complete. (100t)

Flop 852

Checked to me, I donk out $65, Villian calls, BTN calls, everyone else folds. (205t)

Turn 8

Hero bets $125, Villain raises to $275, BTN folds back around to me and I think about what he has and smooth call. (I dont put him on 2's, 5's, 85 or 82, i feel he ALWAYS raises those on that "wet" flop). (755t)

River 7

Hero checks, Villian INSTA bets $525 and stares me down, Hero ......

Obviously calling here, but should i be going all in ??? He is doing this with any 8, and the only hand I'm losing to is 87

Should I be raising the turn ?

I would jam turn. Even if he doesnt have a worse 8 he can have A2-A4hh 67 78 maybe even overs he wants to bluff catch with.i didnt see how deep you guys are but i assume calling the river bet wont leave you with much behind. I would probly shove river and expect to get shown a boat sometimes and a pot committed over pair other times.

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Agree with reraising the turn... not all in since it's deep but like $600-700 would set you up to possibly shove a safe river.

Limp-calling utg then donking flop is a little strange and allows everyone to put you on a non-premium almost certainly. Villain's smaller raise has a similar effect but he might also just be raising smaller with a good hand, who knows. I would still keep some overpairs in his range.

As played if you think he is doing that with any 8, then he is probably calling a river raise with more than just 87 to get revenge against you. If he plays 74s then he could conceivably have 85s but seems ambitious. You're probably right that he would have raised the flop with a set 5 ways. If he can find a call with just one or two non-boat 8s then it's worth a raise, I guess a jam now with the pot size. He might even get stupid with an overpair and put you on busted hearts making a move.

you are basically button clicking.

as played, if he is capable of losing 1500 with 47 on AK742 he surely is capable of losing 2000 with a worse hand like A8, so ship it in I guess

and lol at shoving 1600 over a 275 raise and hoping he calls off with "maybe even overs he wants to bluffcatch with"

Nice river check (and turn flat). Seems like either 8X or 2-pr. I'd underweight FHs as most players will flat turn to give draws a chance to improve OTR.

More likely to gii now, though calling is ok with a live read.

Personally I fold pre flop - I don't think playing Ad8d UTG is a winning play - but I guess if the table is horrible or you are running insane - which it appears you are - I could get behind it.

Don't raise turn - it turns your hand face up and allows him to play perfect. IE fold everything except full houses and if he has an 8 that you beat you're gonna get paid anyways on the river.

River jam is fine - the run out you got is very good. You lose to sets and 87

I probably call river in real time as I wouldn't expect him to call a jam with worse, but that is probably a bad way of thinking.

You also lose to the flopped double gutter 46 as well as a possible 69hh on the river. I'm also not sure why we are eliminating sets from his range when many LLSNL players get trappy with those. It is unlikely he just called with 85 or 82 on the flop sure.

On the river I think it comes down to how you interpret his staring you down when deciding between call and raise. When he had 47 on the turn versus you how did he act?

I think calling river is best.

Shipping river is really bad. He has either trips, boat, or bluff (and I guess a small chance he has a straight). But there are only maybe four combos of trips in his range, as opposed to seven boats.

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And definitely don't reraise turn.

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I would normally agree with that, but that guy stacked off in a similar potsize with 74 on AK742

Bet larger on the turn, like $160 and he likely raises to $380-$400, and when we click back to $850, and he puts it in here on the turn...he likely has an eight that does not beat you here.