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Misplayed Q8? Misplayed Q8?

02-26-2017 , 05:09 PM
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There are two limps, I make it 12 with Q8
Both limpers call
Flop:[Q107] checks to me, I Cbet 28, the first limper folds, the second calls.
Turn:[9] check check
River:[10] V bets 50, I fold.
V shows J10o
In hindsight I should have bet the turn. Thoughts?
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02-26-2017 , 05:18 PM
What do you know about villains and stack sizes? It makes a difference on the turn.

Not a huge one though, villain is open ended on the turn and isn't folding easily. You have to be worried villain has KJ/QT/two pair/set. There are a lot of ways you are already beat on the turn. You also have a draw to what is likely a chop on the turn so checking to avoid getting raised is likely best.
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02-26-2017 , 05:41 PM
If you bet turn, you get called. V called the flop bet and his hand improved on the turn, he's always calling unless you way overbet the pot.

You open raised Q8s. You don't mention your position, how the game was playing or many other factors. In a vacuum, Q8s isn't a a great hand to open. You hit the flop relatively hard with top pair, bet and got called. Checking behind most turns makes the most sense, given your hand. Depending on the river, you've got a bluff catcher.
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02-26-2017 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dutchstreetfish
If you bet turn, you get called. V called the flop bet and his hand improved on the turn, he's always calling unless you way overbet the pot.
Exactly right, the Villain is very unlikely to fold after his hand improves.

There's lots of lots of posts hand where the Hero gets sucked out on. No change in betting is going to change the order of the cards.
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02-27-2017 , 09:54 AM
Don't post results, they bias responses. Just look at the posts in this thread all focused on whether or not villain would have folded the turn if you bet with his specific hand. It's irrelevant. We are looking to find the best play against villain's range, not retroactively decide what the best play would have been if we had magically known villain's hole cards a the time.

Pre-flop is debatable and depends on position/reads. Since you provide this very important information I'm just going to go ahead and say fold pre.

Flop/Turn are good. River is a call if you check the turn. The T hits his range, but there are tons of missed draws he could have, and a weak loose player can have worse Qx. Again reads really help here.
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02-27-2017 , 11:14 AM
I was in the cutoff, the two players to my left were also very tight and passive.
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02-27-2017 , 04:07 PM
Seems standard. Betting turn is bad.
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02-28-2017 , 08:15 AM
Just read title. Fold pre
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03-01-2017 , 05:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutchstreetfish
If you bet turn, you get called. V called the flop bet and his hand improved on the turn, he's always calling unless you way overbet the pot.
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Originally Posted by au4all
Exactly right, the Villain is very unlikely to fold after his hand improves.
These posts are really bad. Hero still had the best hand on the turn. Wouldn't you want the villain to call your bet?
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03-01-2017 , 05:27 AM
Not sure of our exact position but in general LMAO @ folding this pre.
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03-01-2017 , 06:23 PM
no reads, no effective stack sizes, no position

Hand might be misplayed or not but hand history certainly is.
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03-01-2017 , 08:32 PM
Based solely on the thread title, the answer is yes.

Pre is fine if you're in the CO or Btn, maybe HJ with two nits on the left. Flop cbet should be smaller. I'd probably plan to check the turn/river and fold to aggression. Sometimes 1/2 PSB against loose draw chasers on the turn.

Stack sizes and reads would help.
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