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Old 11-29-2015, 05:23 PM   #1
Shag401
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middle set on monotone board

1/2 nl Line check

Effective stack 220

Hero is in mp with 55

Villian 1 young loose aggressive

Pre flop utg and utg1 limp hero over limps. Mp makes it 12 v1 calls 1 limper callls i call

Flop 50 5 2 9 all clubs. checked to me i bet 30 going for value against over pairs and club draws. Foldes to v1 who quickly flats other player folds. Heads up

Turn 110 4d hero makes it 80 villian calls

River 270 Kh. Hero decides to check villian fires out 100 hero calls
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Old 11-29-2015, 06:18 PM   #2
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Re: middle set on monotone board

I can't even read that.
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:34 PM   #3
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Re: middle set on monotone board

Looks OK, I probably go more OTF.
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Old 11-29-2015, 08:02 PM   #4
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Re: middle set on monotone board

Looks OK. You will lose to a meh flush a decent portion of the time but can't give up against a LAG and a reasonable bet without a good read.
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Old 11-29-2015, 09:49 PM   #5
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Re: middle set on monotone board

Looks ok i guess
I struggled to read the post and cant really figure out where v1 position is.
As played don't mind the river check to induce bluff from worst and for pot control if he has a big hand.
I presume v1 had nut/nuttish flush here and you are wondering if you should slowdown on the turn?
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:00 AM   #6
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Re: middle set on monotone board

I'd bet a little less on the turn to pot control, probably $60-70. I'd also sometimes raise preflop against two limpers. It would solely depend on the type of villains at my table. I'm really nit picking here. Overall good line.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:48 AM   #7
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Re: middle set on monotone board

How many people are mp? Are you sitting on someone's lap?

I probably check the flop because the turn is much easier to play, and I don't want to build a pot those times I am behind.

The problem with leading is that all you do is help a donkey play his weak flush well, unless you want to bring out the big guns. If you want to fire, fire pot twice. That doesn't cost any more than the way you played it. If he calls pot pot he has a very strong hand.

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Old 11-30-2015, 11:36 AM   #8
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Re: middle set on monotone board

Three people in middle pos. Me, original raiser, villian. I didnt bet pot pot because i wanted to get value from bigger club draws.
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Old 11-30-2015, 01:24 PM   #9
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Re: middle set on monotone board

You only gain value when they pay more than their draw is worth (they're losing value and you're gaining it). I.e. you don't gain anything by offering them a fair bet. $30 is only more than their draw is worth if you fold every time a club peels.
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Old 11-30-2015, 03:26 PM   #10
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Re: middle set on monotone board

4 ways to a monotone flop, your hand is a bluff catcher plus a draw to a strong hand. I'm taking a more passive line in my room, mostly c/c if it's not too expensive. I hate mono flops. Everyone sees the flush and they're not going to go wild with hands you beat like overpairs or two pair. Getting value is tough, trying to figure out a price to charge one card flush draws is optimistic, the flush is already made.
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Old 11-30-2015, 03:50 PM   #11
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Re: middle set on monotone board

Well played.. You are often still ahead when you make this call (AK, KX, qk, air, K9, Ax).

I wouldn't expect to see a small flush very often, as he would most likely have pushed harder.
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