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Mid stakes hand but not that tough.. Hopefully Mid stakes hand but not that tough.. Hopefully

07-28-2015 , 01:18 AM
So the game is about 5-10 CAD, in asia..

Villain: older Jap gentleman, got sucked out on one hand and was on tilt, playing about 70% of the hands.. Recently doubled up with Q6 by calling PF, calling Q63 rainbow board and raised all in on the turn.. Got called off by KK

Hero: doubled up and just lost a big pot (600) by making a hero call on the river.. Got shown top 2 so ppl didnt know i was calling down light.. This is literally the next hand

Hero: big blind 8s9s (effective stack 1600)

PF: villain limps from MP, SB calls, hero checks

Flop (30): 8h 9c Jc

Sb checks, Hero leads for 25, villain calls, sb calls

Turn (105): 3h

Sb checks, Hero leads for 80, villain makes it 200, sb folds..hero?

Hero calls

River (505): 4c

Hero checks, villain bets 300.. Hero?

I thought that turn raise could include more AThh type of hands and less value hands since villain flatted a wet flop.. Should i 3 bet that turn?

When i called the turn, i was preparing to call down any none heart and straight river.. But villain is rather passive, unlikely to be bluffing.. But kinda value hands does he have?
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07-28-2015 , 01:28 AM
standard bet fold on turn. this is always QT T7s 88 99 J9 J8 98. its a limped pot so he could have all those hands.
unless hes shown to bluff turn u hav to fold
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07-28-2015 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Triplerangemerge22
standard bet fold on turn. this is always QT T7s 88 99 J9 J8 98. its a limped pot so he could have all those hands.
unless hes shown to bluff turn u hav to fold
Yep. Fold turn IMO.
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07-28-2015 , 01:38 AM
Dont re-raise turn!! Calling turn is OK at best, its a limped pot and board is super wet with possible sets, top 2, str8, flush draws. Theres not a lot bottom 2 beats here except draws. On the river theres another scary card and hes betting 60%pot. And hes seen you can be sticky in pots, fold.
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07-28-2015 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Triplerangemerge22
standard bet fold on turn. this is always QT T7s 88 99 J9 J8 98. its a limped pot so he could have all those hands.
unless hes shown to bluff turn u hav to fold
Out of all the hands you mentioned. We block a lot of those.. Also, unless he had QTcc or T7cc, would he really flat that wet board? I mean it's possible since it's 3 handed but to a lot of recreational players there thats an auto raise, no?
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07-28-2015 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by NickTheNit
Dont re-raise turn!! Calling turn is OK at best, its a limped pot and board is super wet with possible sets, top 2, str8, flush draws. Theres not a lot bottom 2 beats here except draws. On the river theres another scary card and hes betting 60%pot. And hes seen you can be sticky in pots, fold.
I think i had conflicting logic in that spot.. If we think he's capable of raising draws on the turn then he's also capable of bluffing the river.. So it's a call on the river

And if we think he's a passive player and not capable of raising the turn with draws, the 89 really is not good on the turn.. Fold
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07-28-2015 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Triplerangemerge22
standard bet fold on turn. this is always QT T7s 88 99 J9 J8 98. its a limped pot so he could have all those hands.
unless hes shown to bluff turn u hav to fold
+1

you probably can add J3 into that list also (Q6 isn't much better)
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07-28-2015 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by WestNoob
Out of all the hands you mentioned. We block a lot of those.. Also, unless he had QTcc or T7cc, would he really flat that wet board? I mean it's possible since it's 3 handed but to a lot of recreational players there thats an auto raise, no?

yeah u can discount those but ull still run into those hands. occasionally u run into a draw of bluff but so what? llsnl make stupid slowplays alot. ive seen people wait til river to raise red QT here
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