Played a pretty straightforward hand the other night and I would like your opinion on max value

Hero (255.00)
V1 (175.00)
V2 (400.00)

My table image is TAG, called out a couple hands that my oponents have on really wet boards, nothing that impressive for someone who has played holdem for a while. Lots a calling stations.

V1 is LAG in mid 20's. Thinks he is phil ivey, hasn't showed any bluffs but has overbet several rivers to take down pot.

V2 is a nit late 60's. He usually calls a flop bet when he hits and raises ott and otr.

Button Straddle due to little action last few hands, small blind to act first


V1 BB Raises 15

Hero flats in hijack with 77

V2 flats

Flop K75
(45.00)

V1 bets 25.00
Hero Flat calls 25.00
V2 folds

Turn 2
(95.00)

V1 : Checks
Hero: Bet 40.00
V1: Instant calls

River K
(175.00)

V1 Tanks for a minute or two and checks
Hero: Raise all in
V1 Tanks again and then lays down hand

With his pf in early position I put him on AK or something like that and tried to overbet the pot to look like a busted flush draw.

Any advice on MV?

I think this is pretty good. He just had air.

Flop call is a very smart play, IMO, if he can double barrel a lot.

Normally I'd say bet bigger on the turn but stacks aren't crying out for such an action. No reason to go over $50

Wp wp

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Seems good, but I think I'd bet bigger OTT. Ivey isn't checking a K here very often, so I'm putting him on mostly draws. We aren't getting much value when he misses OTR, so we should try to extract a little more on the turn.

Obviously not a big deal, but an extra $10 OTT will add up over the long run.

His line also includes mid pair bluff catchers on up to QQ

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PSB that harmless looking turn card. Hell if I was going to throw in an overbet I would do it on the turn rather than the river. People know it's hard to pull the trigger on a river bluff. If you bet more OTT you could bet a much less "scarier amount" OTR and likely get calls from all kinds of crap. POT THAT TURN!

Say we even bet 60 OTT and 60 again OTR, thats 120 instead of 40 fish bucks!!!

this is terrible advice. Look at stacks.

Little bit more on the turn

Like the river over bet and rest of hand.

the river is like a 1/2 pot bet, not remotely an overbet. We're against V1

Without history against said opponent:

I actually like checking the turn or bet something very fishy to induce suspicion.

I doubt we'll have problem getting money in against V's value range, so the question is how to get money from rest of his range.

I'm totally betting more than 40 into 95 here. PSB might be a little exaggeration. but if he's willing to call 40.. 60ish+ seems totally reasonable.

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I would bet the turn for $55.

That's why LAG can do so well against ABC players in LLSNL.

They rarely float and they always bet according to the strength of their hands.

There is no reason to bet over 1/2 pot on the turn here

I think RP's idea to consider a check isn't bad if we think villain barrels a ton of rivers with air

If you are calling out people's hand and giving off any of the attitude that you think that other players think they are phil ivey than people probably view you as a LAG.

I would bet more than half the pot on the turn, that might get a call on the river.

If he had a K he would probably call your river bet so I think shoving is fine.

this post is also detached from this size of our stack

If he had a K there's nothing at all to worry about, it's all getting in comfortably, the real issue is how do we get value from hands other than Kx

I just don't think villain ever checks Kx there OTR

I don't think so either, smells like QQ to me.

Standard, imo. Turn bet could be slightly bigger, but whatever.

Note that on the river villain only has $95 left in a $175 pot. A shove is the only bet here and isn't remotely close to an overbet.

ETA: I don't hate the turn check idea, but I'd much rather do it with only a ~PSB left so that we know for a fact we can get in all the chips in by the river; otherwise, a little too FPS for my tastes.

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