No reads on V other than he's a fishy rec player. The only hand I played was when I raised QQ UTG, bet two tone undercard flop, lead again OTT which committed me and I called an all-in raise. I lost on the river to trips w/fd but didn't show.

1/2 NL, 300 max.

I re-bought for $300 and...

2 or 3 limpers and I limp in SB with 77. V is OTB and directly on my right and has about $250.

Flop ($8) 7 8 A

I lead out for $5.

One limper and V call.

Turn: ($23) A

Hero bets $20. Limper folds and V calls quickly. I really felt like he had an ace with a weak kicker just based on his timing.

River: ($48) case 7, giving hero quads

If he has an ace, he isn't folding now no matter what I do but he's likely never raising unless he has exactly A8 or AA.

Hero bets ... how much?

all in

If he had a flush draw hes not calling anything obviously. If he has an ace hes calling anything. This might seem crazy but I bet $75. He will probably give you a WTF look and call with any ace.

Check....let him bet his Ace (and also his air) and then raise all in

A bet (even a big one) will probably just get called by a passive, average 1/2 villain and it also doesn't give him a chance to bluff with his missed draws

Then once you raise all in on the river he is obviously never folding with an ace

Given that this is a limped pot, think you have to go bigger OTF. I bet $15. Yes it's 2x pot, but it's not a lot of money and an ace or club draw is never folding.

As played, OTR check/jam. He's not checking behind aces full, and you're not getting value from anything else. Once he bets, he's never folding aces full either. Agreed that if you lead he's not necessarily raising with aces full either.

I like this also.

Title grunch: all in


Actual grunch: all in. Try it. I bet he calls.


Responses: not sure how everyone is afraid he'll check back an ax but somehow will bet a missed draw. There's no way this guy is betting a draw. Checking is really bad.

i see a fishy rec player checking behind with ax here more often than i see him folding to our shove

Would have bet more on flop and turn.

But yeah, I'm just jamming. Who cares that it's 4x pot. He isn't folding an Ace.

yeah, that's what I was thinking. "I check, you aren't calling anyway..."

Overbet every street, especially flop (you need to build a pot ASAP and rec players only think in absolute dollars not pot size terms so a $15-20 flop bet doesn't look as big as it is), and jam river. He won't fold Ax.

I'm in the check/jam camp. Disagree that players would often check back with Ax. Second choice would simply be to jam.

Zeebo says jam river. If he's the 1% of population that folds river, good for him

I was thinking check/raise all in... but I actually prefer just jamming. It makes it seem like a chop-pot to V.

Bet way more on the flop. I'd overbet for $15 here. Overbet the turn as well, especially if you think Ax makes up the majority of his range.

River is an obvious shove, an Ace is never folding and you're not getting any value from other hands. Check/shove is OK as well if you think he might bet a missed FD and are sure he'll bet an A, but some Vs might just check back so I'd rather just go with the open-shove.

I agree, that's kinda why I like the open shove. It def knocks out his bluff range on the river but we're gonna get paid by the ace like 95% of the time. Definitely outweighs the 20-30 bucks you'd make on the bluff easily.

We bet flop/turn. Thinking some one is going to bluff on a double paired board of AAxxy with a busted FD is extremely optimistic thinking IMO.