Playing in a pretty aggressive 1/3 game with the strattle on almost every hand ranging from $6-$20. The villain in the hand is definitely the weakest player at the table, (earlier in the session he got A10 in on a 10 6 4 board against 66 and was cheering for a 10 on the river thinking it'd win him the pot) $400 effective stacks

UTG strattle up to $11
HJ (villain) calls $11
Btn (whos a reg) calls $11
Hero BB - JdJc raises up to $50

all players call.
(pot $200)

flop: 10d 7d 3c

I decided to lead out for $100 (in hindsight I think I like a slightly bigger bet)

UTG folds
Villian calls
Btn folds

pot $400

turn K hearts

I didn't really love any of my options here but decided to ship the rest thinking i'd be up against a 10x or some type of combo draw (even though i block some of those holding the Jd)

villain calls and shows up with KQdd.

Anything you would have done differently? would we ever consider a check/raise on that flop?

thanks

Some things I would do differently.

Bet bigger pre maybe 65-80

Makes you bet bigger on the flop

The turn bet all in is imo a bad move. You get all bad hands to fold and only hands that beat you to call.

I think the hand is pretty standard I do like sizing up on the flop about 66% pot is fine.

As played nothing u can really do. He will definitely have K high flush draws when he calls flop but other stuff will fold to a turn bet

What do yall think about shipping it on the flop? Is it a ok play?

Otf the pot is $200, you have $350 left, spr is just above 1. And you very likely have the best hand otf. You might be able to stack TPGK hands by shoving flop

I'd make it bigger pf and quite big otf.

raise more pre and ship the flop. SPR is under 2.

This ffs

what kind of sizing are you going with pre?

My standard pre sizing is 5x+1 with another 2bb if im in the blinds. Against a straddle I will go 4x. Against a big straddle like this its 3x. So thats 33 + 22 for the limpers + 22 for being in a blind. That would be 77. Realistically in game I probably round down to 75 or 70. But definitely bigger than 50.

I agree but in the moment I decided chk folding just seemed far too nitty. In hindsight everthing 10x that im beating which has showdown value probably isn't turning their hand into a bluff on that turn and would likely check back...maybe not though

thanks

I’d make it $70+ pre. AP I’m just shipping the flop because sizing is so awkward.

+1 to bigger otf. As played turn shove is good, you got unlucky.

Anyone chk/eval this flop 4 ways with overpairs?

Not T 7 3 two tone. Especially not with JJ.

add $11 for every limper and you are OOP which makes you incentivized to raise more preflop to counteract positional advantage by your opponents.

Standard should be around 4x so go to 7x which would be $77.

This will give you a much easier shove OTF on safe boards like this one. Always think about how preflop flows into post flop. You want to make decisions easier for yourself so structure your raising and betting in that way.

If you are looking for a way to rationalize how you could have saved money in this hand, don't. You were probably always going to go broke here.

Agree with everyone saying to size your bets up, but also, don't assume your goal is to make people fold when you do this.

I'd raise bigger preflop to give less IO and the fact we'll likely end up playing OOP and often times with a hand that isn't fond of the flop. I actually don't think just calling and seeing a flop is horrendous either (mostly setmining). Lol @ preflop results (4ways to a 3bet), standard.

For better or worse, I believe we've committed ourselves on this flop (which is why I raise more preflop to offer poorer IO). SPR is 1.75. If anyone is stabby at weakness, I'd check/jam. Otherwise, I'd consider just jamming at these stacks.

Even though we're not in love with the turn I'm also shoving because I don't think we can do anything else.

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