1/2/4 fishy table.. $500 eff stacks

Hand 1: Hero makes it 20 pre in position with AcKd getting 3 callers.

Flop ($80): AJTddh
V1 donks $50, V2 folds, V3 calls, Hero calls

Turn ($230): Jh
Checks through

River ($230): 4s
V1 checks, V2 checks, Hero bets $50 to get weak Ax to crycall



Hand 2: V1 makes it $15 MP, Hero calls AJss in MP1, V3 calls OTB, V4 calls in SB.

Flop ($60): JT8r (8s)
V4 donks $50, only Hero calls

Turn ($160): Ks
V4 bets $50, Hero calls

River ($260): Qs
V4 checks, Hero bets $50 to get 2p or 9x to call


What do you guys think of my river sizings?

H1: bet larger, missing out on value, you are getting snap-called by an A. Somwhere along the $125-140
H2: you have a flush? bet large, you will make a lot more money when you get snapped off by an A then the times that you might win $50 from their two-pairs or 9x.

H1: Maybe 1/3 PSB targeting AX.

H2: With a straight and high-rank cards out there, I'd go $160-$170.

Yes. The way he played it, he never has Ax though. If he bet river, I was shoving. But when he checks, he just never has Ax. He is capped at a lower straight.

Grunch

They are going to mess with any balance you might be wanting to achieve. I suppose you might set up a dynamic where you can bluff really cheaply against observant opponents but mostly it's going to mess up your river value/bluff range.

If you're doing it in spots where you'd otherwise just check I suppose it's not going to have much impact on your value range on the river - just be exploitable by itself.

That all said I do quite often make quite small bets for thin value when I don't think players are worth balancing against. However, these days I'm trying to size up my river bets both for value, thin value and bluffs so I can fit more bluffs into my range, get more value and be harder to play against.