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Low stress question fire triple barrel? Low stress question fire triple barrel?

12-02-2016 , 11:13 PM
Hi all,

Just played a session not a really important hand just want some input from the community!

1/3 game. Villain is relatively new to the table. Seen him make some strange plays (shoving 60BB preflop) weird stuff.... Haven't seen him show down anything
V2: mostly irrelevant

H: playing short stacked ran 100 up to 210 in about half an hour. Doesn't think V is paying too much attention

OTTH: V raises in the hijack to 10 bucks. H is in on the button with AQ off. Considered 3 betting but just flat called.... V2 is in the BB and calls
Flop is KJ2 rainbow V2 checks, V1 checks H bets 15. V2 folds V1 calls
Turn 5 V checks Hero bets 25 (should I have double barreled?)
River 2 V checks and only has 50 left..... Hero should?
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12-02-2016 , 11:37 PM
Given how shallow V1 is (33 BB), I would 3! pre to isolate. As played, I think the flop bet is fine but once he calls we need to recognize that future FE is low since the SPR was only 3x on the flop and he seems to like his hand.

You are most likely behind to Jx so I would take the free card and try to hit your 7-10 outer. As played, the pot is $110 and there is only $50 behind so I would not expect villain to fold after raising pre and x/c two streets. If he happened to have QT than you already got max value. Check it back.
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12-02-2016 , 11:57 PM
i don't think checking flop is a terrible idea. The board hits a lot of their range. They can fold to a turn bet just as easily when they have nothing.

If you're going to stab at this flop there is zero value in betting a blank turn like this. You're bloating the pot while behind their range.

With V this short I would have 3 bet pre to set up a flop shove

Last edited by The Rumor; 12-03-2016 at 12:02 AM.
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12-03-2016 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by The Rumor
i don't think checking flop is a terrible idea. The board hits a lot of their range. They can fold to a turn bet just as easily when they have nothing.
Checking it back is fine, but we do block a lot of the Kx and Jx calling hands from BB's calling range. We can also fold out their mid-PP's and even Jx when they are MUBsy.
If we assume that V1 would have bet Kx on the flop than we have ~30-40% equity against the hands we are currently behind and betting the flop is our best chance to maximize FE.

If the flop x thru twice (which I find unlikely), our turn bet FE becomes minimal in my opinion, especially on a brick. I'd rather combine our FE with our hand equity when both are at their highest (flop).
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12-03-2016 , 09:07 AM
3! pre. The preflop raiser has only ~30BB. Make it $30 and shove most flops.

As played, I'd check the flop. Two broadways hit both BB calling range and villain's raising range. You have to fold if someone raises and you run into pot commitment issues if someone calls. You have a fair amount of outs and some showdown value.

Once villain calls the flop, he's almost never folding the turn. He's well past commitment with Kx and probably Jx. Check turn, check back river. Neither card incentivizes a fold from whatever villain can call the flop with.
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12-03-2016 , 09:34 AM
I'm not crazy about the flop bet. Our hand has SDV and we're rarely getting called by worse. Even if we do actualize our equity with an A or Q we might not get paid off with the scare card or worse.

I'm not saying the bet is horrible, but it would seem to be setting up a multi-street bluff which could be all right but on the first instinct it's iffy against a short stack at 1/3 with a low SPR. Marginal.
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12-05-2016 , 12:39 PM
With only a $210 stack versus a weird guy who is opening the HJ, I'm definitely 3betting preflop. I make it upwards of $40 with the plan of easily stacking off postflop with TP. Kinda hate our flat with these stacks / situation. ETA: With Villain only at $100, I would actually 3bet to about $30 - $35 in order to setup a PSB shove on any flop.

Against weird unknowns I might just check this flop back and take my free card. But I don't hate the small stab at it.

I'm done with the hand after he calls my flop stab, especially when totally non-scary cards start falling.

Next time add up pot totals for us, but it looks like Villain has just $50 left and the pot is $110. The only hand he's going to fold on the river is a missed draw like QT, and we're ahead of that.

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