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Old 06-11-2015, 11:43 PM   #1
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Low flush vs. aggro opponent

Playing 4 handed.
Hero has $1650; learning to be a good/loose/aggro.

Villain in the hand is LAG. He covers hero's stack.I'm unsure bad aggro, or good aggro. He is always agrro and I am learning to play vs. his style.

Pre-flop

Villain straddles $5, sb folds,
Hero in BB 74, decides to call.
UTG calls.
BTN/Villain raises to 15
Hero/BB calls.
UTG/bad/loose/passive calls.

Flop A65
Pot~40
eff-1635

Hero ch's
UTG ch's
Villain/BTN bets 30,
Hero calls 30.
UTG Folds.

Turn A65 9
pot ~100
eff 1605

Hero ch's
Villain bets 75
Hero Raises to 275.
Villain calls 275.

River A65 9 8.
Pot~650
eff 1330

Hero leads 350
leaving 980 behind

I'm unsure if this was a good way to play the hand. What hands am I really getting value from? What hands can even call me here!? If he re-raises all in, can I ever call..... I feel like I arrived at a bad place, and I am unsure what I could have done better. Perhaps because stacks are so deep I could have ch/r or b/3! the flop. Whattya think?
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Old 06-12-2015, 06:36 AM   #2
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Re: Low flush vs. aggro opponent

I think your problem here starts with PF. I'd probably fold to the straddle, and definitely fold to villain's raise. OOP, deep vs. a LAG is not a situation you want to be in with a hand like a low suited gapper.

You got one of the best flops that you could hope for. I'd c/r this flop and expect to fold out a ton of the LAG's range. On the turn, I much prefer c/c after c/c flop. C/r turn should turn your hand face up, whereas c/c allows the LAG to continue to barrel (I'm c/c river as well). If he's any good at hand reading, you probably don't want to get stacks in here with one of the weakest possible flushes.

As played, the river spot is tough. Again, if he's good, your hand should be face-up by this point so it's hard for you to get value. I might just c/c the river and hope he thinks he can bluff us off a 2p type hand. Or make a smaller blocking bet trying to induce a bluff raise.
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Old 06-12-2015, 06:52 AM   #3
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Re: Low flush vs. aggro opponent

In addition to RAHZero's spot on analysis, what is it you think V called your $200 raise ott with? Have you been that much of a LAG that he could put you on something other than a flush? There aren't many hands V could have that are worth calling.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:00 AM   #4
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Re: Low flush vs. aggro opponent

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In addition to RAHZero's spot on analysis, what is it you think V called your $200 raise ott with? Have you been that much of a LAG that he could put you on something other than a flush? There aren't many hands V could have that are worth calling.
Last week, playing Villain heads up, I b/3! a paired river that put a flush on board with 6 high airball, no hand no draw. We have history, we have 5 bet pf both of us light.

He either had a set/higher flush draw was on my mind. Problem is, he may win if board pairs and he hammers the pot, or if a club comes, I doubt I can call...

I had too much money behind without a proper plan methinks....
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:52 AM   #5
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Re: Low flush vs. aggro opponent

You guys are using FR mentality on a 4-handed game.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:18 PM   #6
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You guys are using FR 100BB mentality on a 4-handed 300 to 800 BB game.
FYP.

Calling all day with 74s pf. I'd raise a ton on the flop with with a straight and flush draw. TBH, I'm happy to have the betting go where I'm all in.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:33 PM   #7
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Re: Low flush vs. aggro opponent

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I think your problem here starts with PF. I'd probably fold to the straddle, and definitely fold to villain's raise. OOP, deep vs. a LAG is not a situation you want to be in with a hand like a low suited gapper.

You got one of the best flops that you could hope for. I'd c/r this flop and expect to fold out a ton of the LAG's range. On the turn, I much prefer c/c after c/c flop. C/r turn should turn your hand face up, whereas c/c allows the LAG to continue to barrel (I'm c/c river as well). If he's any good at hand reading, you probably don't want to get stacks in here with one of the weakest possible flushes.

As played, the river spot is tough. Again, if he's good, your hand should be face-up by this point so it's hard for you to get value. I might just c/c the river and hope he thinks he can bluff us off a 2p type hand. Or make a smaller blocking bet trying to induce a bluff raise.
This is the trolliest advice I've ever read on anything pertaining to anything.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:56 PM   #8
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Re: Low flush vs. aggro opponent

Call PF, that's 74s and similar hands are for: to bust deepstacked aggros.

That bit of the history (3! light against each other) would have been interesting in OP.

In that case, I would reraise OTF large -to 90$ if I don't know you- but because you two have history, I would try to go extra here, 30+100. You got like 60% equity here

If he folds, Im happy. If he calls, we have a ton of outs to hit our OESFD -and if it comes a blank (no 8,3,clubs) we could still represent set/TPGK "afraid of the flush/straight", donking OTT 2/3 of the pot, like 200.

OTT, as played, I think you may be always ahead, but is worrisome his calling OTT. What is he calling with? I will c/c OTR, but is a difficult call if all in.
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