deep stack 1/2 AC

hero HJ: very active, never making a pair, bet folding more than I'd like. Laggy competent image, but being played back at a fair amount. ~$500

Villain BTN: Loose/bad. Playing a ton of big pots and finding a way to win them. Poor calls, nonsensical raises but the pots keep getting slid his way. Has settled down a bit since he went to get something to eat. ~$1300

Has been seen calling off 200bb's to a turn check/raise over bet jam from an UTG +1 on a A K 6 J board. He showed K6os river K and beat UTG's AJ, no doubt the absolute bottom of his (utg1) range.

At the same time, has been seen firing 3 barrels with air. Has made a psb otr w/ 99 on a K 8 T 4 K board after check/calling two streets.


hero opens 45 to $12 from hj villain calls otb. heads up

flop (~$25) 6A7:club hero leads $15, villain raises to $45, hero? hero elects to call

turn (~$140) J hero checks, villain bets $50, hero?
hero elects to call again

river (~$190) 8 hero makes his straight. What do we do and why? We want max value, how best to achieve it?

Please include thoughts on all streets. I think the turn and river are the most interesting as I can make a case for pretty much everything. I want to hear the reasons behind your chosen actions. thanks guys

Fold to villain's raise flop and turn bet. you're not getting the right odds to call and chase the draw. plus you may only have 6 clean outs for the straight. I understand Villain is loose and you want to get in as many hands vs. him as you can but chasing pots w/bad odds isn't the way to make money.

river - Villain seems content to bet so I probably ck/call here to get max value. if you bet now you may be folding out his worse hands here. you made your straight which you were going for so you're all in now if need be.

fold preflop

check/shove river

either check/shove river or I might just shove river vs this type of villain if he can think it only makes sense for a flush draw to do it

actually he bet very little on turn so his hand prob isnt good enough to call a shove.

IMO your play up to the river seems fine, I don't think a c/r OTF would b appropriate since he is spewy he might 3bet you and then you r OOP in an inflated pot with 5high
OTT he makes a 1/3 PSB which gives you the correct odds to call and not to c/r for the same reasons OTF
The river is where it gets interesting, what do you think he has and what is he putting you on? IMO he has AJ and he thinks you have a one pair hand. As with the 99 hand you described it sounds like V will go for value with AJ and possibly any A in his hand, so I might think that this is a spot for a river c/r. You may not be able to get your whole stack in there b/c he might fold a one pair hand to a check/shove. The river c/r sizing should be based on wether you think he has a one or two pair hand, if he does has AJ then he might call your river shove but if he is going for thin value OTR then you might cross his threshold for calling with a shove so the raise OTR has to be smaller.

Fold flop? Uh no. So wrong.

And his turn bet is lol. Giving 3:1. I bet he has JJ.

Your line is fine. Lead river big. 5/4 pot or more. Shove over raise.

I don't mind a x/shove here either.

Against this villain x/s is probably best but I'd hate to have him suddenly check behind.

the turn and river pot sizes appear to be off to me. looks like turn should be about 115 and the river should be about 215. no?

as for calling the turn bet, we have about 15% equity and therefore need to make about 6x villain's bet by end of hand to justify the call. 6x50 = 300 and there's already 165 in pot (115 to start turn + villain's bet of 50). so, we need to think we can get 135+ on river if we hit.

Maybe villain is a mad genius. Making PSB on river with 99 is a very advance play that has merit, and K6 also makes sense given his image.

Playing 54s OOP against a maniac is just asking for trouble, and given how wide his range is, you're almost always going to miss value while folding too much.

This hand is a mess if you ask me.

Anyhow, you played the hand like a draw, might as well rep a busted draw. Fire $150.

This is really critical because it indicates a 1/2ish PSB vs. a 1/3ish PSB on the turn.

I really don't know what you are trying to accomplish PF (OOP with a weak hand vs. a known loose, bad player). Flop is workable. Turn is workable.

I really don't think he's as strong as others are thinking. He probably just has Ax. If he has a monster, like JJ or AJ, then he will shove over top of you on the river, so I don't see any advantage to x/s or overbets here. Just bet $150 into a $215 pot and call his shove (with your $250 remaining, I don't see him raising anything less). If he has 9Tcc or something goofy, then so be it. You are good against his range so much of the time.

I agree with this. In general it's not good to play suited connected against LAGs when in EP and coming in with a raise. Call and let other players make it worth it to call so you can see a cheap flop, but that's it.
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Are you villain lol?

No, but why do you ask?

Please stop with the calls to ever fold this hand at any stage. folding pre is optional but pretty tight if you ask me...open your game up a bit in cash games please. Then you are never folding flop or turn here either...and just calling is the best play against this V.

I think check-shoving is deff way to go here. He deff could actually have a good hand like 2pair or even bet an ace, or as you said triple barrel bluff.

Raising pre with 45s is losing money given lack of position to a recognized maniac.

Flop: Bet $20, you want to set up pot for shove when you hit and hide your draw. $15 smells of draw and this maniac seems knowledgeable enough to note that.

As played call raise with intention of calling a bet on the turn.

Turn: It looks like pot before bet is actually $115. As played call. When you call the flop, you have to intend to call the turn unless his bet is too ridiculous.

River: Should be $230 in pot. You have $440. Check/Shove. Say you check and villain bets 1/2 pot again, there'll be $345 in the pot, then your call plus remaining stack makes it $785 and he has $325 to call - getting 2 to 1 and given he's done questionable 200bb call offs, this is probably just as or even more justifiable for him to call. Basically, if he bets at all - get it in. You'll make more money by his decision to call your shove even though it's less frequent.