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Losing to medium stack, ahead of big stack's big draw Losing to medium stack, ahead of big stack's big draw

11-24-2017 , 08:55 AM
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v1: just sat down via table change. Late 20s. Headphones. Track apparel. Unshaven. $200

V2: Late 40s Asian. Korean, even. Earlier he got stacked and then I stacked him again for $300 while his new chips were en route. I had AA. Raise, 3, 4, call, dry flop, shove, call. He tilts in bursts after losing and then likes to get those who beat him. But, he isn't a sour puss about it. Friendly, upbeat. The money doesn't seem to be an issue for him.

He is back up to about $500 and I cover.

He is lose passive pre, he bluffs sometimes posts, but he puts people on hands and isn't a total spazz.

OTTH...

Several limp to my sb. I complete with red 77.

7JhTh. Yum.

I bet 13. Coulda bet a little more, given the millions of hands that call. But this was over pot and more than people were usually betting into limped pots.

Both call. Others fold.

Turn Q, non heart, no new flush draw. I bet 37. Again, could have gone bigger. But I am also targeting a wide range from V2. Decided to price it under $40.

V1 thinks for a few secs and raises it to $80. He doesn't seem nervous at all.

I'm pretty damn sure this is a straight. Firstly there's just the calmness and a timing thing. Someone with, say, QJ, has to react to the Q, then wonder if they are good, then decide how much to raise, if at all. They are worried about getting stacked. It just looks different than someone who knows they are good deciding what to raise.

Also, in these games, this raise is a pretty big give away. He is afraid of the flush draw behind him and feels compelled to do something. But he also wants to win a big pot with his monster, so he min raises or slightly above.

I didn't really think he was that strong on the flop. But maybe I missed it. Didn't look like an AK limper, but who knows? Kh9h?

V2 Insta calls. Looks quite a bit like a big draw, though I'm not as sure of that.

V1 has $100 behind. V2 has $300 behind.

It is my turn. I thought there was some interesting stuff to think about.
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11-24-2017 , 10:20 AM
He's doing a pretty bad job protecting his straight with a min-raise on the turn. He's offering you 4:1 roughly to call, which is what you would need to call with a set or a FD.

The only thing we're really in trouble with in this situation is a better set. If we're not behind a set, we have 10 outs, which is more than the FD has. I'd call at this point and see what happens on the river.
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11-24-2017 , 12:26 PM
Will V2 bluff river if he misses?
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11-24-2017 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
Will V2 bluff river if he misses?
I don't think so, for the most part. On blank rivers, V1 seems likely to go all in. If I were to call and the board pairs, I'd bet.

If v2 doesn't have a heart and a heart comes maybe he'd bluff, but I'd believe him.

Things I considered at the time: Could I fold to V1 on a blank river? Would V2 call an all in now? ($300 to win $1200).
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11-26-2017 , 09:19 PM
I'd just flat. Looking to improve on river and if not you still have decent SD value.
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