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04-23-2019 , 02:17 PM
If this hand is a debateable VPIP under normal conditions, it's definitely fine with an Ace exposed. This makes a bigger difference than people realize.

If you're going to limp it should be to squeeze here. IDK why you seem to be implying that this hand plays well multi-way OOP. If villain literally raises 50% of hands then I would not be opening this hand. L/rr is the play.

Lol at folding river against this player type. The hand is well-played post.
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04-23-2019 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NoBluf
All the draws missed and I would never expect him to bet a 10 twice so no need to worry about 3oak.
The 10 makes it less likely he has K10, k10ss seems like the only reasonably holding AK and KQ would play like this.
Did you read the V description? He's aggro and barreling. He can't always have top pair+. I absolutely expect this V to barrel ANY pair or any draw. Eliminating combos based on him double barreling seems silly.
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04-23-2019 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
I very very occasionally limp a hand like AJo/KQo UTG when I have been card dead at an active table with the intention of l/rr if the right action develops. KJo just seems too weak/wide to add to the bucket of hands you’d attempt it with. I’d never l/c though.

If I did brain lapse and limp it like you did here I would certainly go for the l/rr given the described table. Don’t really have any advice for the river - that’s a live read spot that you wanted to get yourself into. Villain can be value betting as light as KQ here so you need to find enough bluffs to justify the call.

FWIW - Flop could also be a raise given reads.
This!
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04-23-2019 , 03:08 PM
could there have been a smidge of tilt going on knowing you would have had AK ?
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04-23-2019 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by browni3141
If this hand is a debateable VPIP under normal conditions, it's definitely fine with an Ace exposed. This makes a bigger difference than people realize.

If you're going to limp it should be to squeeze here. IDK why you seem to be implying that this hand plays well multi-way OOP. If villain literally raises 50% of hands then I would not be opening this hand. L/rr is the play.

Lol at folding river against this player type. The hand is well-played post.
Ya, I agree that the exposed ace makes a bigger difference than people are realizing here as well.
It’s less about what I don’t have and more about what V is far less likely to have because of it. Specifically AK and AA combos, which is a significant portion of what beats me here.

I also agree that I botched pre here. If I raised 3-4x pre like a few have said here, I would have saved a good chunk of $. Funny how screwing up just a few streets in a super long session can cost you so much. I ended up booking a very small win after a long 14 hour session even though I ran really bad the whole time, but if I played 2 streets in 2 specific hands better I would have booked a 200bb win.

Lesson learned: every street played optimal really matters a lot.
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04-23-2019 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by c0rnBr34d
Did you read the V description? He's aggro and barreling. He can't always have top pair+. I absolutely expect this V to barrel ANY pair or any draw. Eliminating combos based on him double barreling seems silly.
Yeah. This guy can’t have it every time, but I think he actually was just sun running for a few hours, and bluffing in all the right spots, which is so much easier when sun running.
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04-23-2019 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by snowman
could there have been a smidge of tilt going on knowing you would have had AK ?
Not during the hand.
Afterwards, definitely a fair amount of tilt at myself, and also the dealer (I didn’t give him a tough time about it, but I was definitely tilted by how much it changed my thinking about the hand). I very very rarely get tilted at a dealer, or in general even. I’m pretty good at keeping my emotions in check.
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04-23-2019 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Amanaplan
I mean raise to 15-20 pre. 7 handed w at least one tight opponent I would consider opening any two bway cards. Folding is obv fine and more disciplined, but if you’re playing it then you’re raising it and if you get 3b, well, you have one of the worst hands to play oops and you can just fold (or spew 4b, but fold is ok).

He might have AA or quads or air even w the ‘small’ river bet.
Cool, I got ya now. Thanks for clarifying.
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04-23-2019 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by XtraScratch8
Funny how screwing up just a few streets in a super long session can cost you so much. I ended up booking a very small win after a long 14 hour session even though I ran really bad the whole time, but if I played 2 streets in 2 specific hands better I would have booked a 200bb win.

Lesson learned: every street played optimal really matters a lot.
That's pretty results oriented. Single decisions might have a huge impact on your session result, but they won't often have a huge impact on your EV.
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04-23-2019 , 05:15 PM
Alright, this mostly all confirmed what I was originally thinking.
My main mistake is pre, but I think folding K-Jo 7 handed with an ace exposed is pretty nitty in my books. If I opened here, I get 3! pre and save $450+.

Results:
Spoiler:
V opens the one single available combination of KK for second nuts. A hand that I hadn’t even considered as a possibility. Sometimes you run into the top of a loose aggro players range when they sit down to their first hand after dinner I guess. Ah well. Expensive lesson learned here and hatred for KJ reinforced.


Thanks for the input everyone!
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04-23-2019 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by browni3141
That's pretty results oriented. Single decisions might have a huge impact on your session result, but they won't often have a huge impact on your EV.
Yeah, true. I’m usually not very results oriented.
I thought that I played this hand well postflop, like you said.
But pre really did cost me here. One mistake can make a big difference is all I’m saying. Glad to get the input of some internet players here (I assume you play online and live).
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04-23-2019 , 05:48 PM
OP, you really don't have to respond to every single reply. You would want to be careful you don't turn your own thread into one giant tl;dr. At least in my humble opinion.
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04-23-2019 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Homey D. Clown
OP, you really don't have to respond to every single reply. You would want to be careful you don't turn your own thread into one giant tl;dr. At least in my humble opinion.
I’ll do what I prefer, but thanks for the tip.
And apologies for replying.
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04-23-2019 , 07:51 PM
It’s just one of the many hands he has. Raise pre and you lose $15 or he slow plays and you lose the same amount.
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