Home game in Houston, very loose.

PREFLOP: Hero stack size is around 600 eff, has everyone else covered
Hero:BB with AKh

MP raises to 10, 4 callers

Hero bumps it up to 30 (bc of position, should I have raised more?), 4 callers, pot is now 120.

FLOP:Kc,Jc,5h

-I check (bc of position) with the intention of calling anything
-Someone in MP bets 30 with 3 callers, pot is now 200

TURN: 2h

-I turn backdoor hearts with top pair top kicker
-I check, guy in MP (preflop raiser of 10) pushes for 50 more
-Guy on button shoves all in for 200
-If I call I'm putting in 200 to get 650
-So that means I have 1:3 pot odds right?
-Odds that I hit my flush on the river are 30%ish so it's a good call?

-I call and we run it twice
-I win the first with a flush and we chop his stack of 200
-I take down the pot of 400

Should I have even run it twice? The preflop raiser mucks the the BB has J5s

If anyone could review my lines that would be great,

Thanks!

I would have raised to $90 preflop (ETA: Although I'm assuming someone else has a $600 stack). This prevents setmining odds (so we can stack off postflop with TP) and we obviously feel totally comfortable getting it in preflop with dead money vs the original shortstack raiser; even taking down $50 preflop is a fine result. Raising to $30 is pretty bad because we know everyone is going to call, and now we're flying blind postflop with TP in a small SPR pot (where we'll face a stack commitment decision on the flop) and meanwhile we've given everyone good odds to mine with speculative hands.

Flop really depends on everyone's stack. If everyone has anything close to just a PSB remaining (even like $200ish) you could probably argue we are committed and should just get in the chips as best as possible (and check/shoving might be the best play as I'm guessing it is doubtful this flop checks thru).

BTW, unless you are in the most horribly raked game in the world, your preflop and flop pot sizes are way off. Next time do the math right for better responses.

As played, assuming (incorrectly) that the pot is $450 when action is on us on the turn, that means we're being asked to call $200 to win $450, so a little over 2:1. Odds of hitting a flush on one card are about 4:1, so we don't have the odds we need *if* we expect we need to hit the flush to win. However, there is a slight chance we are currently ahead with TP, plus there is a chance our A/K outs are also good.

Running it multiple times is a whole issue in itself which I'm guessing there are other threads for.

ETA: Again, math is key here: if you don't provide the proper pot sizes, all the math is off. Preflop we got 4 callers to our $30 raise, which means the pot should be 5 * $30 = $150 (minus rake, lets assume $5) = $145, which is nowhere close to the stated $120. On the flop, there's a bet and three callers (I'll assume we are one of the callers), so now pot is $145 + (4 * $30) = $265, which is again nowhere close to the stated $200. On the turn, facing a $50 bet and $200 shove, the pot is now $515 and we're being asked to call $200, so we are actually getting just over 2.5:1 odds.

Gwholehand/postisadisaster,imoG

Effective stack size is the size of the smaller stack size HU. It's not well defined for multiple players. If you have 600 and have everyone else covered, the effective stack would be, at most, the largest of the other stacks. That's the most you can play for (thus "effective"). In a multi-way pot, you may actually have a different effective stack size against each other player.

Please provide actual stack sizes for all involved in the hand. It's hugely important for determining the best lines of play.

Please don't provide any results in your post. The actual results don't matter and knowing them can taint any opinions you get.

Also provide any reads you have on your opponents. Even if you don't know anything about their play, provide at least age and sex. Stereotyping in general is a stupid idea, but in poker it's necessary until you get better reads.

Yes, raise more pre. You're out of position in a multi-way pot. Taking it down now is a fine result. Having four callers out of position is not good. With roughly 40 in the pot when it gets to you, I'd make it 80 to go. This also helps post-flop play, as it will be trivial to properly stack off with TPTK.

OTF, you've hit TPTK in a multi-way pot with some draws. You raised pre, so can't count on anyone else to bet this for you. Lead out for 100. Once you decide to check and get a tiny bet, raise to 150.

OTT, lead out. You have TPTK and a draw to the nuts. It looks like stacks are 50 and 200 for V's. Put them both all in.

Yes, your pot odds are 650:200 or 3.25:1

There are nine cards to give you a flush on the river, with 46 unseen (out of 52 you have two, there are four on the board). Your odds to make the flush are therefore 37:9 or 4.1:1. However, one of those outs pairs the board (Jh) so your odds of winning are slightly less than that. If you had only the flush draw, you'd have to fold getting 3.25:1. But you might actually have the best hand (V could have KQ or be shoving some sort of combo draw). Even if you are behind, you may have more outs depending on what V has. Calling is probably correct here, but it's a crying call. Hitting your flush would be the best strategy.

the 3-bet is way too small, and the flop check is really bad... we went 4 way to the flop (bad), and we flopped TPTK and we let everyone get to the turn for a 1/4 PSB.

The odds of you hitting your flush is not 30%, its closer to 20%.

I don't think you should have run it twice. You are ahead here way more often than you are behind. Even when you're behind you almost always have 9 outs. Villains will show up with flush draws here a decent amount of the time which you would have drawing dead.

The 3-bet should have been at least like $60-75 imo. $50 of dead money in the pot and you do not want to go multiway to the flop with AK. You should be more than happy to take it down now or to go heads up. The flop/board run out was extremely lucky that it played out this way...

As played, I'm leading out on the flop for like $80-100.

Nothing else in the hand really made sense.. it's almost like you were trying to trap 5 other players with AK...

I don't know if it's the nature of the home game you're playing or whatever - but the whole hand (until the river) plays strangely - almost like a limit game or a 'friendly'. The joy and sorrow of NLHE is the ability to make bets that sting and make opponents have to make really hard decisions. The early betting in this hand (especially yours) just feels soft.

If you've really got a $10 MP raise and 4 callers - and you are going to bet it - you need to make it a serious bet. A $20 raise into a $50 pot is just starting a parade. Make it $75 - 100. Taking it down now is a good/great result.

Okay. As played OTF. You hit a great, though vulnerable flop. I'm not crazy about betting blind into 5 players - but we made our bed. I'd go for a c/r if I felt fairly comfortable that someone is going to bet. The $30 bet will do... with a couple of callers the pot must be about $250. Raise it to 200.

It's hard to comment on the rest of the hand - but I think you've got to call the turn bet.