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12-29-2018 , 11:53 PM
Hello guys,

need help, havent played since ages. Played NLSH online until end 2009 and was a winning player back than. Didnt have time because of rl and job so i quit poker. RL and job is running good now and i wanna start again.

I havent been much in Casinos, maybe 30 hours a long time ago back in 2009. There were maniacs all over the place as far as i remember.

I decided to go there again and this month I was 5 times in this casino.
From what I saw it is still pretty juicy. But I think I have huge leaks in my game now which i want to solve.

In the casino all guys know each other pretty well so I think they are there on a regular base maybe daily. I think there are 2 TAG regs, 1 nit, a lag who is knowing what he is doing as far as I saw ( saw some weired plays from him too, shoving all in pre with 85o from the blinds after utg open and several callers 200bb deep. Buys in for 75bb, sometimes for 500bb, brags about big pots he is playing in other casinos. He is really pushing the table around and I folded some good hands on drawheavy flops oop against him in the past. I see that he is normally aware of positions. Maybe I give him to much credit and he is just bad.)
Others do really strange stuff too ( Maniacs a traddle 16 bb, go ai blind with atc and get called by 96o, K7o and so on. For a good player the paradise I guess.

I have to admit that i am nervous against these guys, that is for sure because I didnt play that much live.

So I have a few hands which I played not so good in my eyes and hope to get advice from you guys.

Maybe it is the best to start playing online microstakes again first. But I can’t resist playing there in this game but will start micros soon with all the reading of strategy again.


My plan was to play aggressive and to be ip especially against the lag. I was carddead most of the time or didnt feel good to play marginal hands against these guys. They just see me win pots with premium pocket pairs or AJ+ with tptk or stack them off with these hands. Nobody folds to cbets on this table. It was insane what you saw on the showdown. 200bb pots multiway with lowest pair or even king high won.

So i think they see me as a nit or scared money if they even think about it.

All hands FR

1.

UTG (150bb) Unknown, not out of line opens big for 16€
Hero UTG+1 (130bb) AcAs 3bet 46€
UTG calls
Flop 9AdQd (pot 96€)
UTG checks
Hero Cbets 50€
UTG folds and says he mucked KK

Pre is fine I guess? If we don’t 3bet we get a lot calls and are multi-way. Do we cbet this set here? Size is fine or to much?

2.

Hero UTG (80 bb) AKo opens for 10€
MP1 spewy maniac (90bb) calls
MP2 spewy maniac (110bb) calls
CO Lag (200bb) calls

Flop 87Kr (44€)
Hero cbet 30€
MP1 folds
MP2 raises 80€
Lag fold
Hero?

We get it in, right? He can raise worse Kx, str8 draws and maybe even MP. Or do we just call him down?

3.
UTG LAG (160bb) opens 8€
1 Call
Hero CO (90bb) AsAc 3bets 26€
Spewy Maniac BU (120bb) calls
UTG calls

Flop 6d9Jd (90€)
UTG checks
Hero checks
BU bets 30€
UTG calls
Hero shoves

Should have cbet right? Was sure that BU will bet because he always does if checked to him.

4.

LAG UTG (420bb) limps
2 more limps
Hero Co ( 200bb) JJ opens to 12€
NIT BB ( 300bb) calls
UTG calls

Flop 7dQd9 (42€)
Check, Check, Hero?

I think check behind is best here? We pot control and don’t valuetown ourselves against Qx?

Turn Ac
Nit bets 30€, UTG folds

Hero folds as played?


5.

4 Limper 1 of them is sometimes postflop aggro all between 150-250bb
Hero BU (170bb) AsAc opens to 14€
Fish calls

Flop 7s9sQh (38€)
Fish checks
Hero bets 26€
Fish calls

Turn 9d
Fish checks
Tbh I got scared by this turn so I decided to check back. Huge mistake I think.
He ll still call with a lot of draws and pairs.

River blank 3
Fish bets 26 and I was thinking I have to raise now. Or is it ap only a call now?

6.

Hero UTG (130bb) TsTc opens to 8€
4 callers including Maniac from BU (200bb) saw him overbetting river investing 3/4 of his stack and than folding to an allin 2 hours before. A few weeks back he also raised on a low flop against an aggressor double pot and showed Ax with no hit.

Flop 379r (42€)
Hero cbet 20€
Folds until BU who makes it 120€

Given what I saw before I have to call/raise I guess? My cbet is way to small, should have made it nearly potsize I guess?

Ok that is enough text now. I much appreciate it if you read it all and are still willing to help. Thanks in advance.
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12-30-2018 , 01:24 AM
It's better to pick one or two hands and break them down in detail, this will get better responses. Also don't switch between describing sizes in BB and in amounts, makes the description hard to read.

At games full of maniacs don't be afraid to be seen as nitty. When they start folding to your tight play then you can throw some bluffs into your range also.

1: Not much you can do here. You crushed the board but there not really any way to disguise your hand in a 3 bet pot either and the board is just a bit too messy to check. Villain saying he folded KK to your flop bet could be a lie. This is a terrible board for KK but folding KK to a single flop bet is pretty weak.

2: Against a spewy maniac mix between shoving this flop and calling him down. SPR is low enough that folding is generally bad.

3: Either way is OK because your stack is so small as long as your are confident somebody bets behind you.

4: Your raise isn't nearly enough for the situation. On the flop I like a mix of c-bets and checks. You can still get called by worse and it helps to keep the lead on the hand. When the nit bets the turn it's a fold despite the small sizing.

5: Raise isn't big enough again. How big depends on table but I would be starting at something like 20 and going up from there. Turn you should bet a good portion of the time but not always. River depends on how villain bets here, if he is likely making a blocking bet with a single pair or a small bluff then raise, if he has a bunch of suck bets with 9X in his range then just calling is fine.

6: At this sort of game limp/call with TT- in EP can work until villains catch on. If you are going to open it probably needs to be bigger, you don't want too many callers. Flop bet should be 30, 2/3 to 3/4 of pot, enough to charge draws while still enticing worse hands to stick around. What to do to the raise is messy. After your small bet he can be bluffing and you block the obvious 86 draw but your hand isn't good enough to be comfortable playing for stacks. Judgement call. Given stack sizes if you do want to play then shoving is probably best.
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12-30-2018 , 05:03 AM
Hand 3: 3bet bigger after a caller

Hand 5: Definitely betting turn. Against a fish I'm looking for three streets against a queen here. If they checkraise I just fold, most LLSNL players don't have the stones to run that against a bet-bet line. As played, raise is an interesting suggestion but I feel like it's going to be -EV. He might not bet bad queens OTR and might fold them to the raise, so I feel like too much of his calling range is 9s or better.

Hand 6: Your cbet is on the small side 4-handed. Be aware of your context here. You raised UTG and led into 4 opponents, which means your range will be pretty overpair-heavy, and this should be apparent even to a lot of maniacs. If the other hands where he ran bluffs were similar then fine, get it in, but my guess is if you gave the full context, he would have much less reason to suspect his opponent was strong in those hands. TT is close to the bottom of your range for leading a 5-handed flop here, so you should be folding unless you have good reasons to believe that this won't matter to the villain.
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12-30-2018 , 10:37 AM
Thanks for input guys. I ll keep your advices in mind👍
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12-30-2018 , 11:40 AM
Definitely one hand per thread if you want good advice. Heck, I mod here and I couldn't be bothered to read all of that, once i determined that it wasn't trolling and was on topic.

I asked my wife to randomly pick one hand I should comment on, and she said #3, so here goes: Pre is fine. Good sizing. Bet flop, at least 2/3 pot. That board is way too wet, and a free card would be criminal. AP: shove is definitely correct.
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12-30-2018 , 08:03 PM
You are right Gentleman, i ll post future hands seperate!
Thanks to your wife ��
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12-30-2018 , 08:46 PM
OK, read over most of the rest of the hands. Open bigger over limpers. The rest of your game seems fine.
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