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07-07-2014 , 11:05 AM

lavezzi

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 58

Hi,
A friend of mine explained me this hand. Im sorry but i had to write it manually.
Unknown opponents.
FR Live 2/5$

UTG 500$
MP 500$
HERO AQ 1000$
SB 1000$

UTG Raise 15$, fold, fold, MP Call 15$, fold, fold
Hero Raise 60$, SB call, BB folds, UTG calls, MP folds.

Flop Q45 Rainbow

SB Bets 70$, MP fold, HERO Calls.

Turn A

SB Bets 80$, HERO Call.

River T (no flush possible)

SB Bets 110$, Hero Raise 360$, SB Calls.

Last edited by lavezzi; 07-07-2014 at 11:25 AM.

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07-07-2014 , 03:18 PM

LilFang07

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 202

Thats a bad play with any 2 cards. WTH dude what do we have?

I see now AQ... You should make it more visable

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07-07-2014 , 03:20 PM

TheBirdman

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,391

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Originally Posted by LilFang07

Thats a bad play with any 2 cards. WTH dude what do we have?

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07-07-2014 , 03:22 PM

LilFang07

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I wouldn't squeeze an UTG raiser with AQ without a good reason too. That being said I would not raise the river. What are you expecting to get called by? Villain is showing strength and isn't afraid of the A hitting the turn, so it seems to me you are either beat by a set, chopping, or the villain is bluffing which makes it an easy call.

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07-07-2014 , 03:43 PM

just_grindin

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No don't raise flop. The river raise is whatever. I could see it working with certain villain's. Without reads and being this deep I think a call down is better.

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07-07-2014 , 04:57 PM

heliumXD

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Flop is fine imo. I like a raise on the turn and get it in. No need to raise river unless villain would call $60 cold with A4 A5 here, and would call the raise with 54. I'd put him on a misplayed 54, but most people should fold it to a raise.

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07-07-2014 , 05:06 PM

PokerDharma

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I like the flat on the flop, I hate the flat on the Turn. Raise the turn to $200. If called you're perfect to get stacks in on the River.

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07-07-2014 , 05:22 PM

legallyShoved

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I wouldn't 3 bet this hand against an UTG "unknown." You just inflated the pot knowing nothing but what is in your hand.

Is he really an unknown? Can you put him into a TAG/LAG/station category based on sex, dress, appearance, race, accessories? When sitting down with a bunch of unknowns, use self created stereotypes based on their appearance until you see them play for a bit. For me, villains fit these stereotypes about 50% of the time, meaning that they don't fit the other half. But if that is all you have to work off of...

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07-07-2014 , 06:52 PM

SunChips

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Originally Posted by legallyShoved

Hit the nail on the head.

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07-07-2014 , 08:38 PM

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Playbig2000

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this isnt' really a light 3betting hand pf since, as others have already stated, we don't know how wide the initial raiser is. it also sucks to flat. I don't wana be the nit in the thread but I hate playing fit or fold ever if I can help it.

However, UTG raised only 3x with everyone left to act. If he raised 25 or 30 I would most likely fold but 15 in 2/5** from UTG is usually just a sweetener such as a suited connector or small to med PP. If this was a small raise in this particular game I would still 3bet.

**assuming this is 2/5 since idk what 500nl means in a live game (as opposed to an online game)

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07-08-2014 , 07:44 AM

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venice10

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As others said, making a decision on what the right play is useless without reads. I can't put in context what the small bets mean by the SB, for example.

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