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Originally Posted by peddy.jr.85
I’m eliminating AQdd and less dd hands due to these factors:
Opp was very solid. Had just made 3 FTs at the GCPC
I put in a pretty sizable limp/3b
AKdd is blocked with Kd on board.
Highly doubt opp would even initially raise from bb with 55 and 22.
Opp likely either 4b calls/folds KK to a 5b jam fort 200 bigs effective.
Left me with only AdKx which is what opp had.
Another question I have about this hand is I think opp misplayed it. I don’t include sets because what set calls flop then jams turn with decent fold equity vs hands it’s beating? If opp had x/r jammed flop I might include sets but with board texture, K52 it’s hard to include any set except KKK which as stated, I feel unlikely.
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Plenty of quality players could defend vs. the 3b OOP with AQs. Every l/rr isn't necessarily KK+/AK, even though that's what all the threads here seem to be since people are more likely to post here when they lose rather than when they win, so V can still defend a respectable range including AQs. As far as other diamond hands, you could argue that some of those hands could be better to defend here vs. a l/rr. By saying he's not defending AQs or other diamond hands, you're saying he only defends, what, JJ+ and AK? I doubt that.
Sure, if you're going to discount all those other hands, then this is obviously a call. I just don't see how you can discount them all.
Also, as I mentioned, I'm not always folding this by any means. I was just saying there's plenty of players I could fold here to. Saying we're never folding just seems wrong. I'm probably calling about 2/3 of the time here.
We have to put our V on AdKx (which he had here), an underpair with a diamond into a semi-bluff, or random, non-sensical spazz to call here in the exploitable sense. If your opponent would never jam here with those hands, then that's when I call. I may also call vs. some unknowns based on stereotyping. Our outs are severely limited without holding the Ad when we're wrong.
As far as V misplaying the hand, he blocks AA and KK, you have no other sets here, and only he can have the nut flush. You really don't ever have diamonds here at all, honestly. It could be some weird merge of value and bluffs where he knows he's never folding to your turn psb jam if he checks, and you might fold AK/AA or call with QdQx or JdJx. I don't think his line is terrible if he's sure you're going to jam the turn. But yeah, I'd prefer checking the turn if I'm V and happily going to showdown vs. QQ or JJ since I'm OOP.
Last edited by HawkesDave; 10-10-2018 at 06:44 PM.